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Oct 19, 2015 19:58:54 GMT
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Hi,good work on your build, if its any help i have put a M60 B40 V8 into an e30, its tight for space so i used X5 headers, they work for me as they are one piece, they fit no bother onto your engine and sit closer to the block,The only other issue may be steering column clearance tho no doubt you can solve that some way,These manifolds are also double skinned and will have to be angled to suit your exhaust system, Best wishes for the build and keep the pictures coming,
Cheers Mo
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froggy
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Oct 19, 2015 22:03:04 GMT
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If your looking at any kind of forced induction it might be worth looking at going with megasquirt . I have a 1uzfe with twin turbos in my 32 and use microsquirt with ford edis v8
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I'm sure I read on here somewhere that these headers are twin walled and are even worse on the inside than they look. That'll also make them a pain in the to mod. Erm, WOW! I did not know that! Pro tip, thanks very much for the heads up, that would have been one hell of a surprise! BMW scum bags! Hmmm, well that is very interesting indeed. Hopefully if all I need to do is cut the flange and rotate it I won't run in to too many issues. Thanks for the info jonsey & claymore
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Thanks monoon I will take a look at those x5 headers and see how they lay. The headers I have VERY nearly just work so hopefully not too many mods! froggy ... Twin turbos in a 32... I am now looking for more info on this build. I'm not after massive power, I do have a Eaton M112 sat on the shelf staring at me, I've seen others use these on their M60B40 motors... Not sure yet. Someone also offered me a Pro Charger at not insane money at the weekend and that idea has been eating away at me too... But I think you are right, it will have to be an after-market ECU for sure if I go down the F/I route.
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mylittletony
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With the amount of fabrication already being involved - can't you cut the flanges off (or buy new ones) and make some nice free-flowing headers?
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Hi mylittletony , That has been a thought, but the original plan was to use as many stock parts as possible for ease of maintenance and replacement parts, granted the headers will not likely need replacing.. The aim at the moment is to try and get the car on the road in the simplest form possible. Even writing that sounded silly in my head when looking at how the car sits at the moment. I want to make the car as usable as possible and keep the budget as small as possible... I really don't want to get near the end of the build and then not be able to finish it off due to funds. So get it on the road as simple as possible. Really basic interior, drive it about, see what I like, don't like. Then if money allows chip away at refining it. This is another reason why the blower is sitting firmly on the shelf for now.
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village
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Oct 20, 2015 11:54:31 GMT
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stub stacks FTMFW!!
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"The White Van is strong with this one...."
Chris "Chesney" Allen 1976-2005 RIP
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Oct 20, 2015 13:28:10 GMT
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I wonder which the later 545s and 745s used, that original design should have got someone slapped
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froggy
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Oct 20, 2015 17:10:01 GMT
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I knew I wanted to boost the Lexus so it was a no brainer to junk all the Toyota management . If you keep the can bus wiring you will be able to get basic obd codes to help get the bm running . From the age of the donor I doubt it will be a problem using a manual box as long as the ecu sees the speed signal from the gearbox . The Megasquirt was half a days work to wire up and get running The Lexus headers are just as awful as the bm and I had 10mm mild flanges cut using the gasket as a template for £50 and made the turbo manifolds using sch40 weld fittings from a pipe fittings shop .
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That's an awesome build froggy ! Is it done yet or still in progress? Can't wait to see it in action. Yeah I should be able to get it running on the existing ECU, there is just tons and tons of wiring to chop out... In man hours alone it does make me wonder about going after-market... Is the MegaSquirt a coil on plug system? Usually the coil on plug systems work out a bit more expensive and I would like to keep that setup if possible.
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froggy
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Oct 21, 2015 13:18:54 GMT
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I'm just finishing the wiring for the dash and lights then it's ready to start driving but still lots of stuff like interior panels etc and doors to make . I went with microsquirt with a ford edis 8 ignition module and a pair of focus coil packs . Ecu was £280 and the edis £50 everything else was scrapyard stuff . To run cop you need ms3 which can do sequential injection and drive all the coils but is more like £500 for the ecu
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That sir is one awesome looking beasty froggy! I'm sure that will be a right laugh to chuck around, I see a modern engined hotrod race coming on when they are both done! Thanks for the tips on the ECU, I will try and stick with what I have for now but if it starts to throw up some hurdles then I may need to investigate further. So, there have been some additions to the jungle gym inside the 31. These aren't for safety as such, we have the main roll hoops for that, this is more a frame for the body/floor and to generally stiffen things up a bit. A bar across the top to tie in to the door posts... And then some tube at the bottom of the doors for floor support and to also tie the body in when it's time to do that. Likely next will be rear coil over mounts and some little wheel spacers so we know where the rear end will sit once complete. Whilst it's still on the chassis jig, the plan is to move on to the front suspension after, this will be a fairly major part of the project so there may be a few sporadic updates on the way until we are happy with how it sits/looks/behaves. Once the front suspension is done, it will then be cut free of the jig and allowed to stand on it's own 4 feet... That is going to be one hell of a day. Many, many rolls of toilet paper will be required. In other news, there was a Flash Sale on eBay yesterday evening so I managed to pick up this with £50 off the price, result!
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froggy
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My other car has a bias box in and it works fine as its a track car but I wanted the rod to be a nice daily driver so used an e 30 pedal box which is a bell crank system so puts the servo and mc inside the car and keeps the bulkhead clean . electric power steering is from a Vauxhall agila and I've got it working properly with speed and rpm signals so it's speed sensitive .
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Oct 25, 2015 17:02:48 GMT
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I'm hoping the pedal box has enough adjustment in it to get it feeling how I want it. Long way off trying it out, but it's another piece of the jigsaw ready and waiting!
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Carlosfandango.
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Oct 25, 2015 20:33:00 GMT
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Greatly inspiring build, very mich enjoying this thread. Bloody love yours too froggy :-) Looking forward to seeing more progress. Will you be keeping those cross spokes from the e34 to keep the costs down? Also, any thoughts on the interior and the glass? CFD
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1966 Fiat 1500 fast road/race conversion 1967 Porsche 912 1968 Fiat 124 Spider 1973 Range Rover Suffix B 1993 Series one Discovery 200TDI 1997 Jaguar XJ6 3.2 sport 2001 P38 Range Rover 2.5 TD Brace of Triumph bikes
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froggy
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Oct 25, 2015 22:26:16 GMT
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Part of the fun with my build has been not spending money and making using as much raided stuff from scrappers at work or in scrapyards . power brakes and steering would be up at the top of the list for a pleasant daily drive
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Hey carlosfandango, thanks for the kind words. I certainly am keeping those wheels, not only because it will keep costs down but I also really like them, adds to the whole modern vs old school type thing I've got going on. Chances are they will be black when the car is on the road though... Or bronze... Hmmm I will decide once the body has been painted. Got a little while before we get that far though. The weekend was spent trimming some of the tube and measuring for rear shock mounts and a few other little brackets. No photos I'm afraid as I'm sure we all know what a measuring tape looks like
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Pedal box arrived! Horray! Looks great, well made piece of kit by Comp Brake Motorsport. Some more tube work has been going on and lots and lots of welding to try and get things firmed up ready for one of the major parts of the project... The front end! Some additional support for the rear cradle, once we know how much room we have for a fuel tank and other bits, more braces may be added. So, on to playing with the front end. I want the wheel track to be nice and square on this, so the track needs to be equal front and back. Some spacers are needed for the rear to bring them away from the body ever so slightly, then the fronts can be positioned perfectly. Couple of quick mock ups... Grille quickly clamped on to give a little perspective, also a jig made for the hubs, wheel height is shown here and you can see on the jig where the centre of the wheel will be in a final position. It will have a stretched wheel base over a stock 31 and even longer than a 32. It (hopefully) won't look as if the wheel base has been messed around with as the engine is so huge in the bay, everything looks fairly sensible so far!
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Loving this. Good work, keep it up.
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Oct 28, 2015 12:50:50 GMT
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Thanks forkliftfred ! It's going to have quite a different stance to the typical hotrod, but then it's not exactly a typical hotrod! The day it gets on to 4 wheels is going to be a good day!
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