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Morning all
I know that an abs light on is an mot fail, but should it be a major or minor? Car is still motd to the end of this month and I’m not sure I’ve got time to fix it properly before then
Anyone know?
Tia
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Rich
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Morning all I know that an abs light on is an mot fail, but should it be a major or minor? Car is still motd to the end of this month and I’m not sure I’ve got time to fix it properly before then Anyone know? Tia Major IIRC as it’s braking. But a fail is a fail. |
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If your brakes don't work then it's a major fail. If your brakes work but you have an abs light on then it will be a minor fail for having a warning light on.
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Rich
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Last Edit: Mar 4, 2020 13:24:36 GMT by Rich
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Looks like it’ll be waiting until current certification runs out then
Just wanted to know because iirc a major means they cancel what’s left of the ticket it’s on
Btw the brakes DO work, I’m not that stupid 😀
Thanks all
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Looks like it’ll be waiting until current certification runs out then Just wanted to know because iirc a major means they cancel what’s left of the ticket it’s on Btw the brakes DO work, I’m not that stupid 😀 Thanks all Any fail cancels the remaining ticket. A fail logged on the MOT system means the vehicle is unroadworthy and shouldn’t be driven  |
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Looks like it’ll be waiting until current certification runs out then Just wanted to know because iirc a major means they cancel what’s left of the ticket it’s on Btw the brakes DO work, I’m not that stupid 😀 Thanks all Father in law bought a car where someone had taken the clocks out and covered the warning lights with electrical tape so you couldn't see all the warning lights lit up like Blackpool. |
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Rich
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Looks like it’ll be waiting until current certification runs out then Just wanted to know because iirc a major means they cancel what’s left of the ticket it’s on Btw the brakes DO work, I’m not that stupid 😀 Thanks all Father in law bought a car where someone had taken the clocks out and covered the warning lights with electrical tape so you couldn't see all the warning lights lit up like Blackpool. We've all seen it/been there. Sadly also now a failure. |
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I have only had one car with abs
It was the worst braking of any car I’ve ever owned
I’ve driven thousands of miles in cars without abs, and never had a problem, but then I always look ahead!
I can always try the ‘fix’ I heard of a while ago and fit an interior light delay relay to the light😀
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Rich
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I have only had one car with abs It was the worst braking of any car I’ve ever owned I’ve driven thousands of miles in cars without abs, and never had a problem, but then I always look ahead! I can always try the ‘fix’ I heard of a while ago and fit an interior light delay relay to the light😀 Landrover 2/300TDi glowplug relay works well, stand-alone relay that stays on for what appears to be a correct amount of time, use the glow time circuit as the lamp driver can leave an LED glowing, only need an ignition live and earth. Don’t ask me how I know this. ETA: I have NEVER done this to ABS, SRS, or any system that could negatively affect a vehicles safety.I think ABS is also dependant on the car. A BX or Xantia off the top of my head without ABS could be awful to try to stop in a hurry if you didn’t think about the power brakes. Similarly the ABS on my Cherokee, while basic, is great as the all terrains on it just aren’t as grippy as wet road bias tyres and I’ve been thankful at times when it could have caught me out. Now I’m not saying I rely on the system, but there are times when I’m glad I’ve got it on a daily. That said there are also times when you end up with it activating and you do wonder if it was in help or hinderance so I know where you are coming from. |
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Last Edit: Mar 5, 2020 13:43:53 GMT by Rich
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Looks like it’ll be waiting until current certification runs out then Just wanted to know because iirc a major means they cancel what’s left of the ticket it’s on Btw the brakes DO work, I’m not that stupid 😀 Thanks all Any fail cancels the remaining ticket. A fail logged on the MOT system means the vehicle is unroadworthy and shouldn’t be driven It's always been my understanding that it doesn't cancel the remaining ticket. It should be noted that the car should be in a roadworthy condition at all times - if the fault is fixed in theory the remaining ticket is still valid. |
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Rich
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Any fail cancels the remaining ticket. A fail logged on the MOT system means the vehicle is unroadworthy and shouldn’t be driven It's always been my understanding that it doesn't cancel the remaining ticket. It should be noted that the car should be in a roadworthy condition at all times - if the fault is fixed in theory the remaining ticket is still valid. It logs as failed on the MOT system and a fail is an overwrite of any remaining ticket based on the fact the vehicle isn’t in a roadworthy condition. If a police officer were to ANPR your car as ‘failed’ you’d likely be stopped. |
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I have only had one car with abs It was the worst braking of any car I’ve ever owned I’ve driven thousands of miles in cars without abs, and never had a problem, but then I always look ahead! I can always try the ‘fix’ I heard of a while ago and fit an interior light delay relay to the light😀 Landrover 2/300TDi glowplug relay works well, stand-alone relay that stays on for what appears to be a correct amount of time, use the glow time circuit as the lamp driver can leave an LED glowing, only need an ignition live and earth. Don’t ask me how I know this. ETA: I have NEVER done this to ABS, SRS, or any system that could negatively affect a vehicles safety.I think ABS is also dependant on the car. A BX or Xantia off the top of my head without ABS could be awful to try to stop in a hurry if you didn’t think about the power brakes. Similarly the ABS on my Cherokee, while basic, is great as the all terrains on it just aren’t as grippy as wet road bias tyres and I’ve been thankful at times when it could have caught me out. Now I’m not saying I rely on the system, but there are times when I’m glad I’ve got it on a daily. That said there are also times when you end up with it activating and you do wonder if it was in help or hinderance so I know where you are coming from. This worries me, working ABS is a life saver |
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Last Edit: Mar 5, 2020 23:37:14 GMT by 820
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Rich
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Landrover 2/300TDi glowplug relay works well, stand-alone relay that stays on for what appears to be a correct amount of time, use the glow time circuit as the lamp driver can leave an LED glowing, only need an ignition live and earth. Don’t ask me how I know this. I think ABS is also dependant on the car. A BX or Xantia off the top of my head without ABS could be awful to try to stop in a hurry if you didn’t think about the power brakes. Similarly the ABS on my Cherokee, while basic, is great as the all terrains on it just aren’t as grippy as wet road bias tyres and I’ve been thankful at times when it could have caught me out. Now I’m not saying I rely on the system, but there are times when I’m glad I’ve got it on a daily. That said there are also times when you end up with it activating and you do wonder if it was in help or hinderance so I know where you are coming from. This worries me, working ABS is a life saver I will add, I would never and have never done this to an 'essential' safety system like ABS or SRS, I will add that to my post. If the OP chooses to do this then on their head be it. |
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Annoyingly my old Passat incorrectly showed an 'Emissions Failure' warning on the dash when the auto gearbox went into limp mode, even though it was nothing to do with emissions. That = MOT fail/too much hassle, so it got sold as spares...
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Rich
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Annoyingly my old Passat incorrectly showed an 'Emissions Failure' warning on the dash when the auto gearbox went into limp mode, even though it was nothing to do with emissions. That = MOT fail/too much hassle, so it got sold as spares... All the testers I have spoke to say that it MUST be showing a specific MIL, a worded message doesn't fall into the MOT RFR guidelines. |
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Last Edit: Mar 5, 2020 17:50:52 GMT by Rich
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I'll add to that, on diesels before 2008 an engine management light is an advisory, I stuck mine in and it came on on the test (I'd turned it off and it normally does a week before returning), patrols is 2001 apparently.
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What Car is it as you have not said?
Have you done any checks on it to find what is at fault?
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In case any one is thinking of this abs doesent just do abs it also does brake distribution, so your brakes will be worse than conventional ones which generally have something to limit the pressure to the rear etc.
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