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Jan 23, 2021 18:42:44 GMT
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Here is a car which I have owned for 30 odd years. It was my daily driver when I was in my twenties. It survived a low speed crash with a jellymould Granada the first day I bought it. The Humber bent a bumper & damaged some trim, the Granada was written off. It hasn't been on the road for over ten years & it is due a rework. It has been living outside under a sheet all winter while the workshop got done up ready. Here it is on the table ready for initial measurements. I think the word is Restomod. The idea is to add more cylinders but keep the rest of the car original. Maybe some air, certainly some American wheels & sidepipes.
  
Here are drawings scaled off several manuals & books. Loos like its going to be tight.
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Jan 23, 2021 18:44:58 GMT
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Love the sceptre design. Nice workshop too.
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Jan 23, 2021 18:51:28 GMT
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Thanks. I know I am going to have to be extremely careful not to wreck it.
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Jan 23, 2021 18:55:31 GMT
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This ought to be cool. I always liked these, especially that up and over windscreen. Kind of always dreamt about making a coupe version...photoshop was as close i ever got....  |
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Jan 23, 2021 19:11:41 GMT
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Really nice photoshop work but the cool glass line dictates everything so it must stay as is.
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Jan 23, 2021 19:22:13 GMT
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The screen is just laid back, not chopped. But it would be an insane amount of work to pull off.
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Last Edit: Jan 23, 2021 20:08:49 GMT by horrido
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Jan 23, 2021 19:29:02 GMT
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Knowing now what you are capable of.
SUBSCRIBED.
PS: Also happen to really like them.
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Jan 23, 2021 19:30:34 GMT
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This ought to be cool. I always liked these, especially that up and over windscreen. Kind of always dreamt about making a coupe version...photoshop was as close i ever got.... That looks even better than the two door Sceptre somebody built about 15 years ago. I put a 2,8 Granada V6 in a Superminx, and there isn't really room for the exhausts and steering drop arms...... |
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Jan 23, 2021 20:09:35 GMT
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When I was a kid cars seemed to have faces. The Ford anglia looked like it was grimacing. These sceptres looked like they had a moustache.was it just me? Please say no.
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Jan 23, 2021 20:48:37 GMT
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I know it is tight. The Rover is too long & too wide. Time for beer & sketches again.
The steering is awful anyway. Rack and pinion gets rid of the steering box & drag link.
I am thinking about re working the water pump & timing cover.
I think a new clip is the way ahead.
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1963 Humber Sceptre V8Mercdan68
@forddan68
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Jan 23, 2021 21:06:25 GMT
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In for the ride, great sixties classic and a great build to look forward too, 👍
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2003 W211 Mercedes E class
1989 Sierra sapphire
1998 ex bt fiesta van
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Jan 23, 2021 21:10:09 GMT
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The Rover is a big, long and wide engine. I'd recommend going for a 289 or 302 Ford engine instead. Ok they are heavier, but they are 60 degree V engines as against the std 90 degree so are quite narrow and are a lot shorter than the Rover.
More power for your £ to tune & cheaper than the Rover for parts and spares as well.
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Jan 23, 2021 21:26:13 GMT
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I will investigate. Thanks.
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fogey
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Jan 23, 2021 21:53:29 GMT
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Last Edit: Jan 23, 2021 21:57:26 GMT by fogey
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Jan 23, 2021 22:15:51 GMT
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I'm suprised it's such a tight fit they manage to squeeze them into a MGB etc, if you need a short nose water pump you can get a buick one from rock auto for around £50 though you will need a car front cover if yours has come out of a 4x4.
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Jan 23, 2021 23:04:06 GMT
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Looking forward to this build. Just an aside for information, the Minx / Sceptre was the source of components for the Sunbeam Alpine into which the legendary Caroll Shelby of Cobra and Mustang fame, shoehorned the Ford 260 and 289 V8 to create the Sunbeam Tiger. The Alpine was based on a modified Hillman Husky floorpan.  |
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nze12
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Jan 23, 2021 23:12:26 GMT
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[quote author=" blackpopracing" 289 or 302 Ford engine instead. Ok they are heavier, but they are 60 degree V engines as against the std 90 degree[/quote] You sure about that? Ford did have a 60 degree one in the 90s. The 302s I've seen down here are 90 degree. |
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1986 BMW E30 refreshed to original spec
1973 BMW E12 520 converting to Motorsport 530
1982 XJS V12 converting to 5 speed manual
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Jan 23, 2021 23:16:21 GMT
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SBF = 90 deg
Compact engine though unless you go for the 351W as it's taller
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hagus
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Jan 23, 2021 23:43:03 GMT
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Love these, my thoughts were also along the tiger route, 260/289/302 small block ford.
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Jan 23, 2021 23:50:31 GMT
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[quote author=" blackpopracing" 289 or 302 Ford engine instead. Ok they are heavier, but they are 60 degree V engines as against the std 90 degree You sure about that? Ford did have a 60 degree one in the 90s. The 302s I've seen down here are 90 degree.[/quote] I was led to believe so as they are more compact than all the other V8 engines, maybe I've been misinformed? Advice still stands to the op though as the 289 would fit a lot easier. |
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