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Oct 11, 2022 18:24:54 GMT
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Excellent work and a proper job. It's terrifying that bodgery gets through MOT's and even more worrying is the amount of MOT exempt stuff driving around with panels made from paper mache and pritstick. Once you've done the repairs and put some cavity wax in that it will be good for years and much, much better for the environment than buying a brand new electric car. It's still only MOT work, as a 'proper job' would have meant replacing the missing edge of the inner diaphram and joining it to the new outer sill. That would have meant removing even more of the sill. This joint is where the originals had rusted. The intention was to do a strong repair, at minimal cost(the metal used was an old shelf) that was strong, neat, tidy and likely to last a bit longer than a couple of years. |
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Hi Rian, As you know, I'm no stranger to rust and botched repairs. But to be fair, considering the car that it is, the amount of rust doesn't seem that bad. I seem to remember these rusting at a rate of knots. My brothers ex-girlfriend had one when it was only 5 years old and the rust was already a lot worse than on yours. End of the day, you won't need to worry about it once it's done and you'll end up with a solid little car. ( nice work by the way 👍🏻 ) Anyway.....I just happened across this picture while flicking through Facebook. It was described as being a Micra Van??? I've never seen one before?   Morning Dan. Yes, interesting shape. I would almost call it a wagon, more so than a box. As nickwheeler mentions, the objective us to give it another few years of solid driveability. Looking at the front end, which I understand, is a trouble spot for them, it seems,very good. I wonder if it has a garage for the first 10-15 yeaes of its life. |
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[quote author=" nickwheeler" source="/post/2753103 /thread" timestamp="1665512694"] Excellent work and a proper job. It's terrifying that bodgery gets through MOT's and even more worrying is the amount of MOT exempt stuff driving around with panels made from paper mache and pritstick. Once you've done the repairs and put some cavity wax in that it will be good for years and much, much better for the environment than buying a brand new electric car. It's still only MOT work, as a 'proper job' would have meant replacing the missing edge of the inner diaphram and joining it to the new outer sill. That would have meant removing even more of the sill.. This joint is where the originals had rusted.
The intention was to do a strong repair, at minimal cost(the metal used was an old shelf) that was strong, neat, tidy and likely to last a bit longer than a couple of years[/quote] Indeed. |
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Last Edit: Oct 12, 2022 8:23:06 GMT by grizz
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Part 2. Unfortunately, the welder stopped feeding wire just when I wanted to infill the gaps. Job for another day. The passenger side was an even worse bodge, aluminium plate glued in over holes etc. So I cut back to good metal brutally and started by making a new inner panel to be a foundation.     Staggering……  New back foundation.  Hole got to be a lot bigger.    More shaping due before I started welding it in.  Decent puddle welds along the bottom edge, and tacks along the top. At which point the welder stopped feeding the wire. I am sure it may just be a tension setting. But I had enough and decided it was time to come in, my eyes were tired and spotlight was messing with my vision.  I packed away tools, which sometimes is the right thing to do. And collected the excess material that had been removed so far to make it good. Currently we have this. Last MOT pass.  Bit more to do, then I will be happy. |
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The curved flanges were made too wide, so that trimming them would make them fit the sills without lots of extra effort. Removing the powder coat from the edges of the patches would make them much easier to weld. What is it with you and welders??  Although the wire might have run out... |
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The curved flanges were made too wide, so that trimming them would make them fit the sills without lots of extra effort. What is it with you and welders?? Although it could be as simple as a new reel of wire Trimming was done. Quite a bit, lovely fit on the inner skin. And there is wire. I checked that first. But happy to be shown the error of my ways. |
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Oct 12, 2022 11:55:44 GMT
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Need we say more?  |
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Oct 12, 2022 12:43:36 GMT
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Need we say more? Well, you don't know which bit he's looking at..... |
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Oct 12, 2022 19:22:49 GMT
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Well, you don't know which bit he's looking at..... Probably the clock on the wall, reminding him is was lunch time. |
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Last Edit: Oct 12, 2022 19:23:24 GMT by grizz
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skinnylew
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Oct 12, 2022 19:37:13 GMT
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Oct 12, 2022 20:29:07 GMT
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I see the Micra is on French plates, wonder if the Controle Technique is as thorough as the MoT or can you go on strike if you don't like the result and burns some tyres outside the garage??  I would happily kneecap the kind of tradesman who puts out and charges for this sort of work. Unfortunately it is not unusual. |
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Oct 12, 2022 20:34:30 GMT
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Got home after work and rechecked the welder, spool, feed etc, then pulled some of the wire out the tip……. Manually. Sorted. So I started where I left off last night, completing the welds as much as I could be bothered.  Miles from concourse but plenty strong enough imho. Followed by some seam sealer   So, hopefully the next MOT will be a decent pass. Not quite as good as the last one after it failed on the points below.  Bedtime. |
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Oct 13, 2022 16:22:17 GMT
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Quick easy job today. Undersealed the sills, first the inner part and wheel arch.   Then masked off the complete sill.  Body covered.  Result.  Happy so far. More to come in a bit for the binge watchers. . |
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So after doing the sills, I refitted the wheels, got it on the floor, refitted the floor mat and seats Then washed it as it was a bit grubby. While cleaning it I found the rear wiper was dead, and needed replacing, so ran into the local village to grab a replacement.  Motor factors is adjacent a fish and chip shop. That smell is irresistible, especially the smell of vinegar as well. So I treated myself.  I hate eating in my car and as a rule do not allow it, a lesson learned 30 years ago. But the smell got me to cheat. Pensioners portion is a massive pile of chips and a smaller size piece of Cod. All for £3.50 which to me is still a bargain.  After my fishy dinner, I checked up the car’s ULEZ status. This is another London Stealth Tax. If you read what you are paying £14.00 per day to cross a certain road boundary. (I actually drive outside the zone going to one of my hospitals, down the South Circular and technically inside coming back. Anyway……. The Micra is Exempt from that coat, so saves an owner £280.00 or more per month.  Crazy Crazy this whole stealth taxation system. . |
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Last Edit: Oct 14, 2022 7:51:22 GMT by grizz
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Looking good, you work quick. Crazy Crazy this whole stealth taxation system. From what I can figure out the tax is on the diesel cars the government convinced us to buy after scrapping lots of nice of nice old cars like your Micra |
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Forgot to add these. No more pics now. I hope.   Other side.   Next stop, insure and get to the MOT station. |
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Looking good, you work quick. Crazy Crazy this whole stealth taxation system. From what I can figure out the tax is on the diesel cars the government convinced us to buy after scrapping lots of nice of nice old cars like your Micra The tax is because people won't accept that we've become slaves to cars, and politicians are too weak to mention it let alone do something about it. |
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thomfr
Part of things
Trying to assemble the Duett again..
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Tried to run our (old and new cars) on the ULEZ site and it says it does not recognize foreign license plates...
The newest is Euro 5 and the oldest 58 years old. How can I find out??
I have to bring proof for complying (to what?).
Maybe I'm just recalcitrant but this system is stupid..
Thom
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Oct 14, 2022 11:14:03 GMT
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