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Good on you mate.
If I had to pick one vehicle out of the fleet you had it would almost certainly have been the lorry. So many things I could use it for on and around our rural small holding.
All the best.
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Apr 17, 2024 18:44:32 GMT
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Evening all, With the steps and brackets completed, the next panel made its way to work, the drivers door. On first glances, the passenger side 'appears' to be rust free, but once that gets to work, it may well turn out to be a different scenario. So for the time being I focused on what I hope is the worse side.    As the photos above show, there has also been some attempts at repairs on the hinges. All I can assume is the stay has potentially broken at some point resulting in the door being forced open too far, or its simply been blown by the wind or backed up and caught on something. Either way, I was not happy to leave that standard of repair on the door. I don't doubt it has worked fine, and although it wont ever be seen, I couldnt let it slide. So I ground it back, welded it again, then flushed it off. The "incident" had also effected the bracing bracket that surrounds the hinge. Its a sort of triangular shape U bracket that goes above and below the bolt holes, then returns to the internal door skin. The spot welds that secures these to the inner skin had all pulled through, so with some clamping and a tiny bit of hammer adjustment, these were manipulated back to the correct positions before being puddle welded again.   The two photos above show the finished repairs which came out really nice. The use of a new makita finger file have really helped allow me to clean the lumpy welds back flush. Unfortunately work only tend to use 1.0mm wire, so naturally the welds are a bot larger than I like. To resolve this, I have ordered a few 0.8mm reels, and intend to reserve purely for "personal jobs"   While I was at it, I took the inner skin of the door right back to bare metal, as I absolutely despise the blue all over the interior of the truck, so just plan to go satin black for the time being. Moreso as a preservative measure for the tine being. My long term plan with the truck is to try and repair everything rusted on the truck then just paint it myself for the time being. Get the truck roadworthy, use for a while, see what issues come up. And then, after curing these issues, if I'm in a position too, I can send it off for blasting safe in the knowledge the work has been done, and it can off to be professionally painted... as I say, thats the plan...! |
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Apr 17, 2024 19:04:59 GMT
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even without the check arms failing vehicles do crack like that, particularly hard used commercials, the hinges react a equal an opposite force to the check arm.
looks good now.
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Really enjoyed reading through this and seeing the quality of the weld repairs, inspirational stuff.
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Hopefully the link below works, but something I forgot to mention last time was that I have actually been able to test the tipping body, and after some jiggery pokery with the various levers on the cab floor, I worked out what was what, and was left with this... The video does go on a bit without a great deal of change, but it works nonetheless! There hasnt been a great deal of progress since the last post. I did paint the inside of the door, with a roller... I was terribly unhappy with the outcome of that, so stripped it back to bare metal and intend to spray it instead now. But in the mean time I have been cleaning up the mechanisms, the chrome, and doing some general tidying of the door components before reassembly. As you can see in the photo below, I did have to repair the "track" the window sits in. I was worried about getting the fold angles on this right, as the window winder arm has to fit into a channel between the window track and the bottom of the frame. But luckily using works electric folder, then a hammer, it rolled to a perfect shape, and operates perfectly. All I need to do now is to order some new rubber for the door. However getting quarter window rubber looks as though it could prove tricky.  |
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Last Edit: May 2, 2024 23:00:16 GMT by pollystag
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Good move rationalizing your fleet. Working vehicles are the coolest.
Excellent work you do.
John
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Thanks for that, ill have a root through that when I can, normal profiles look to be relatively easy to source reproduced. But the quarter windows look trickier, as I say, ill have a look and see whats on there. |
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Evening everyone, The door is now back home for some final touches before being sat into "storage" for a while. Using the link supplied above, and some google searches, I'm looking to get some new runner ordered in for the door, and I'm also looking to put some sound deadening inside the door. With no door card to speak off I imagine it to be a very loud, and cold driver, so a little unseen addition may help a tad. My plan is to continue as I did on the cab repair. Do all the unboltables in my spare time at work, then wrap them up and store them while I do the work on the chassis and main tub at the yard. It obviously makes zero sense to repair and paint a door to then bolt it back on before repairing the footwell for example! It may not seem the most logical step, but its the best way for me to keep things moving and manage my time best. I do have to make some adjustments to the shed too. Ill call it a shed, as it is a very primitive lean-to I constructed to protect the truck (see a few pages back) but I need to encase the truck a bit more. There is a space next to the truck Dad uses for his various jobs, this does however leave the truck dusty most times I visit. Ill blame Dad but the weather contributes a fair bit too! But I have some more cladding from work so I plan to put up the berlin wall between his activities and mine! There has been another development too ... After the minx left for pastures new my general feeling was that I could begin to really start hitting the tipper with the hope of having it ready for the Detling vintage transport show in early april next year. We visited it this year for the first time, and found it an enjoyable show with plenty to look at. Being local too it seemed a good place to start. Its a punt none the less, but I feel a target gives me, personally, something to work towards. This was until the yard owner propositioned me. Whilst I repaired the cab at the start of the thread, my friend repaired the chassis for the same truck. And he in turn took a vehicle as payment. Now, said vehicle has sat since its collection maybe 3 years ago and done nothing. This has now been offered to me as "I'm the only one down this yard that would do anything with it" So I find myself in a situation again.   Its another Commer! This time a VC. And as you can see, its another welder-upper. But this one does benefit from a fair few new panels included. And as the second pictures show, this served its time as a Milk lorry for Nestle. So much so that you can clearly see the ring marks from the urns worn in the aluminium body! I had gone from always fancying a classic lorry to now potentially having two! The nature of the offer couldnt be turned down. But I did make it clear I was focusing on the tipper first and foremost to prevent any brain fog and pressure occuring again, which he understood and accepted. So here we are...  I then did the usual internet snooping and found this archive photo of one chugging away loaded, Which looks absolutely awesome! The lorries are multiplying... |
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Some people collect stamps. Others collect old lorries and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
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glenanderson
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Has that got a TS3 in it?
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Reckon thats a Perkins in that.
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Last Edit: May 6, 2024 22:53:10 GMT by pollystag
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You are correct. It is indeed a perkins!
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I think the TS3s had twin headlamps...
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And the exhaust under the bumper.
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Not that any of that matters, it's cool as penguin poo. Even if you don't do anything with it, just holding it for someone who will counts for a lot.
Good stuff.
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Evening chaps, I'm not the most regular updater here, but work has been continuing. The cab has now been fully stripped of all unboltables, as I have now made the decision to remove the cab from the chassis to allow me better access to some awkward areas that need repairing.   A few of the affected areas I have immediately spotted  Seeing the truck like this feels like things are getting further away from completion, and Id be lieing if I didnt say it has disheartened me on a couple of occasions, but unfortunately I find it hard to just brush over the surface of problems. I have to try and do it as properly as I can. I took the top section of the passenger side wing in to work next. The only area of concern was the returning flange that bolts to the outer wing, a clear and obvious water trap.     This was another nice easy job, made easier by the access to the workshops guillotine! Ive cut 4 strips of 2mm plate into 35mm x 2m strips, which should be plenty to allow me to do all the flange repairs necessary. |
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A lot has happened since my last post...   We bit the bullet and set aside a saturday morning to get the cab off. It was fairly straight forward with all the unboltables coming off nice and easy. That was until it came to removing the column and steering wheel. This was an absolute headache. The steering wheel itself put up the first fight. Being seized solid it seemed no matter the process we tried we couldnt get it to budge. I tried a central puller, but as the steering wheel already had a few cracks all that happened here was the cracks were made worse. I made a decision (It felt like a very bad one at the time) to just cut the steering wheel off as it was halting everything. I went with the theory that I would be able to find a replacement whether original or period replica so convinced myself it was for the greater good. As it turned out this wasnt all that was halting the cab coming off. Despite me being confident I could remove the steering column from the box with ease, this also proved a massive head scratcher. I had consulted the manual so was aware of how to remove it. But again, it was seized solid. Heat and sheer force again made no difference. Another decision (this felt even worse than the first) was made to cut the steering column inner shaft. Truth be told this didnt phase me much, as I was confident I would be able to weld it back together strong enough and straight enough. But my bigger concern is getting the remaining shaft out the box without damaging the internals of the box. Once these two dramas were out the way, the cab came off easily (!) Dropped onto the trolley I had made, and rolled back into the shed. Lovely...easy job...   After the grief off the cab removal I went back to some panel repairs. I had grown tired of cleaning back the panels myself so took them into work to be shot blasted. This saves me loads of time and effort and exposes all the issues with the panel. The panel above is the top section inner wing. All that was wrong with this was the return flanges, so these were nice easy fixes with the strips I had previously cut. |
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Despite my concern and later upset at having to cut the column and steering wheel, I did find myself presented with a solution rather swiftly. Id placed a wanted ad in the great "classic and vintage commercials" magazine for any superpoise parts and spare glass for the milk lorry. I recieved a phone call from a chap telling me he had both sat in his yard, "come have a look and take what you want". Sounds good to me! I havent had any other leads or contact info for any other Superpoise's my shape, so I wanted to have a look at thos for reference as much as anything else. Unfortunately it was about 5 hours away...but Dad, myself and my oldest boy made the day of it, managing to take in a Gillingham FC away game on the stomp back home! On arrival to the yard there wasnt a great indication of much actually being there, other than and old Iveco and a Mk3 Transit chassis cab breaking its back, lots of long grass, and various lorry bodys. After waiting around for half hour or so, an old jcb backhoe came chugging up the road, and correctly, we guessed this was our man. We were lead around the yard to this;    A VERY sorry looking truck indeed. I did manage to gain a few bits though. The steering box column and steering wheel all came out with ease this time...as I was allowed to cut the chassis and bulkhead apart to take it out as one lump! I hope to get it on the bench and ease everything off a lot smoother than my first attempt. I also came away with the remaining glass, and the door handles. There wasnt a great deal more of use to me really. Whilst I set about removing the parts from the Superpoise, Dad was lead off to get the glass out the maxiload. This was the better of the two jobs, as he smugly told me later a little push and they simply fell out the rotten cab!   Its a very cool Maxiload tipper, but unfortunately it appears laying under a tree hasnt done it any favours. But its a very cool looking truck. The yard was very impressive, the sort of thing us anoraks enjoy mooching around. There were a few other Rootes trucks dotted about too;   A very cool Q4 was opposite the maxiload in the trees and there was also an earlier superpoise front end dumped in a different area. Despite being a veeery long day, it was very worthwhile in terms of spares collections. And very enjoyable in terms of snooping round rusty old junk in the fresh country air!  |
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glenanderson
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The yard was very impressive, the sort of thing us anoraks enjoy mooching around Indeed it is. Whereabouts, roughly, is this Aladdin’s cave field? Kent, possibly, if Gillingham was a stopover? I have a very soft spot for Scammells with that style of cab. My uncle had more than one of them. |
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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