NEW LAYOUT - Read First ... then complain

[HoTWire]

Hello everyone,

I've pulled the trigger and put the new layout live. This will no doubt be met with some gnashing of teeth at the change, it is always thus. Before you immediately get mad at me, please give it a couple of days, unless it is immediately unusable.

I'm aware there are a whole bunch of little graphical glitches that need sorting, spacing here and there, font sizes on some buttons.

I'm also aware there are going to be issues for people I'm unaware of, certain devices, screen sizes, browsers, may behave very differently to what I'm expecting to happen.

With that in mind:
If you have an issue where the whole thing is unusable, please report it here, I need to know the device, the screen resolution if you know it, and the browser you are using. Screen shots of the problem would be useful.
If you have the same issue as someone else, please just like that comment rather than post a new reply (assuming like is not broken).

BIG CHANGE:
Other than the menu moving, more space for text/images in threads and a few other bits and pieces, the BIG change is the editor. I've not found anyone else on Proboards doing what I'm doing here, so I'm a bit out on a limb, however this editor should be much better than the previous one, particularly given the Image Uploader, which is now the little paperclip icon above (I'll change that in due course to be more obvious). It will upload multiple images, in broadly the order you select them (I've had a couple of times where the first selected image appears last, but that seems to be a Windows thing rather than an uploader thing), which should make build threads and photo reports from events easier to do.

One area where it isn't as good (currently) is hotlinking images from other sites. You will still need to put in the old fashion squarebracket img tag around the img url. I have a plan to automatically take pasted img urls, upload them to RR Imgages and replace the url. However this is a little way off as there is other stuff in the queue before hand.


KNOWN ISSUES:
At certain resolutions/devices the Participated box does weird things to the view. This is going to need a deeper re-styling and was holding up all the rest of the go-live, so we'll live with it for a little bit and get it resolved as soon as I can.

Quoting older posts does weird things when there is a quote within a quote. I'm working on a fix for this, but it is proving a tricky one, anyone with javascript skills that is available to help would be appreciated, I'll work it out eventually though. Just be aware of it at the moment.

Styling on new editor I'm 90% sure not all the styling options at the top of this new editor translate and get retained when the post goes in to the forum software. I need to do an exhaustive test and remove what isn't used. I'm just running from the defaults at the moment.

Mobile 'Desktop View This is one of the main reasons I've been moving all this stuff around and working on implementing this new editor and all that good stuff. However it still has some font size issues and there is a 'known bug' in the editor when you click back to the middle of words to re-edit them, starts moving the cursor around and causing mayhem in your replies.  I'm hoping there is a fix for it, or I'll have to word a little note under the edit box on mobile.  Feel free to hit the Desktop view in mobile and experience it, feedback any major issues you have.


IF IT IS TOTALLY UNUSABLE:
If you really really can't get on with this layout because it is fundamentally broken for you, you can go into your profile, Edit Profile, go to Settings and in themes you can still select OLD RR Layout.  This will eventually disappear when I'm satisfied the new layout is correct.

On that note eventually, the Desktop view for mobile will be the only view for mobile. I'm hoping sooner rather than later on that too, so please try if, report issues and we'll get it tip top.  There is nothing I can't fix, I just need to know about it.


Thanks in advance for your patience with this transition phase. We've done it a few times over the last 19 years, and it is rarely as smooth as I'd like, but rarely as painful as I anticipate.

Good luck. 

[metalshapes]

Sofar, I like it...

[foxy99]

The only thing I'm missing already is the font-colour button 

How am I going to do my beige photo-notations? (laughing emoji)

Also (just noticed) where's the flippin' emojis!? (ragin emoji, rofl emoji)

[yoeddynz]

When viewing at it on my lenovo thinkbook I have to drop the font size down to a very small size to see the whole post.  Screenshots as requested.  Will there/could there be a way we can downsize or hide the menu bar? I'm pretty much mainly here to read the build threads.

Big thanks and hugs from NZ for the effort you are putting in to improve what is already a great forum site  

Alex

[HoTWire]

yoeddynz click the three bars in the top left to get rid of the menu (and bring it back)

[HoTWire]

foxy99 I'll see if I can add those back in to the editor. Can't promise yet, but let me see what I can do.

[yoeddynz]

@hotwire  Simple as. Sweet Cheers

[teaboy]

When I am reading a thread and get to the bottom of the page I click for the next page it takes me to the bottom of the next page instead of to the top.

[maf260]

teaboy said: When I am reading a thread and get to the bottom of the page I click for the next page it takes me to the bottom of the next page instead of to the top. 

Same here

[PhilA]

Certainly more stable on my phone than it previously was (Android, chrome).

Question for way down the road: image insertion option on "mobile" view, is that possible (or did I just miss it?)

[foxy99]

HoTWire said: foxy99 I'll see if I can add those back in to the editor. Can't promise yet, but let me see what I can do. 

I've found out it seems to do emojis if you know the symbols

The functionality must still be there

  :@

[pedalcarjoe]

foxy99 said:HoTWire said: foxy99 I'll see if I can add those back in to the editor. Can't promise yet, but let me see what I can do.  I've found out it seems to do emojis if you know the symbols The functionality must still be there

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[westbay]

HoTWire

Firefox edit = 👍

There appears to be two threads "new-layout-read-first-complain" which one should be 'live' ?

[HoTWire]

westbay said: HoTWire Firefox edit = 👍 There appears to be two threads "new-layout-read-first-complain" which one should be 'live' ? 

Yeah I put three on the site, so I can bounce through them every few hours for updates, makes it easier than searching across the site for any complaint posts.

Seems we must be getting somewhere as they are updating less frequently.

I'm certainly not even close to where I want this all to be yet, but it does feel more solid than it did this time last week!

I look forward to the switching off the old mobile site option and the issues that pop up from that.

[jimi]

The top menu bar seems to be a bit low now





8" Lenovo Android tablet, 1280x800 landscape, on Chrome

[j0hn]

jimi said: The top menu bar seems to be a bit low now

8" Lenovo Android tablet, 1280x800 landscape, on Chrome 

I had that earlier this morning. After a refresh it reduced the distance, a further page refresh got rid of it altogether  - wasn't sure if there was some background tweaking going on at the same time as I was refreshing. It hasn't reoccurred since.

Using Vivaldi 6.1.3035.302 (Stable channel) (Pending update 6.2.3105.45) (64-bit)  on Windows 11 Pro 22621.2134

[HoTWire]

Yeah sorry chaps if I get a spare few minutes in the day I often tweak a thing or two, sometimes errors happen mid tweak.

If I'm going for a big change I'll do it in a copy of the theme and copy the changes back.

[jimi]

It's not a problem, fine tuning often throws up unexpected happenings.
I'm not complaining, just postings for info 👍 
I've been in your position (regarding major forum changes) several times over the years, your doing well 👏 mostly relatively minor glitches, you haven't broken it yet ( guess who has the T-shirt for that one 🤣)

[gazzam]

I wonder if you could move the upload photos button to the bottom. It’s a bit of a pain to have to scroll back up to find it once you’ve got a few photos uploaded.
Other than that all good. 
If you don’t mind a suggestion, have a look a the Jag Lovers site. 
There are no pages in a thread. It is continuous. And it remembers where you were up to so you go straight to the latest unread post. Don’t know if that’s possible, but I reckon it’s a good thing.
Thanks, for what I imagine is a fair bit of work.

[braaap]

Not a complaint: funny how two kinds of quotations exist now.

The new one with hesaid/shesaid and the old one with date of quote which could be used to go back to the original post, even in some other thread. A feature I found quite useful sometimes.