It's a sad day but it's time for my beloved Harold to move on to someone who will give him the attention he deserves.
I've a thread on rr that I've kept pretty up to date, the good and the bad. forum.retro-rides.org/thread/213510/ratty-triumph-herald-13-60
I've got another classic (citi golf) that is getting all my attention and the Herald is just sitting there, apart from the occasional start up to temp and run round the block to keep things loose.
Plus I have 3 kids under 10 so I've no time for 2 classics at the moment.
Listing here first before I delve into the nightmare that is ebay. Someone here might appreciate the car as much as I do! I've poured countless days/evenings into building it, such a fun car to work on.
Ad I've written is below:
Here for sale is my beloved triumph herald 13 60 saloon/coupe (2 door) from 1969, quite modified.
I had a triumph spitfire that was crashed, I bought the spitfire back from insurance and bought the herald as a non runner in late 2019. Then transferred all the mods over from the spitfire to the herald!
The herald has no crash history, nice and straight.
Saloons (or coupe as some seem to call it) are very rare, try and find another for sale. I think they look way meaner than the convertible.
Things done to it (I'll have missed some things, you can find a full record of all the work done on the Retro Rides forum. Search in Google for 'triumph herald 13 60 Retro rides' and you'll find it!).
Replacement 1.3 large crank spitfire engine bought from a very reputable triumph parts seller (Wins International), used but recently rebuilt by the previous owner as part of an abandoned project. I've had a camera inside it and it's barely run in.
I fairly recently did a cylinder pressure test on it, all at exactly the same pressure of about 160psi I think? It's in the thread. Very strong engine.
Running twin hs4 SU carbs with huge velocity trumpets. Sounds absolutely awesome.
Suspension is Gaz Gold adjustable coilovers at the front, gaz gold dampers at the rear and then the leaf spring. It's slammed on the ground due to a leaf being removed from the leaf spring, combined with a 1 inch lowering block.
The chassis had been refurbished before I got it, it's had new rear outriggers and had multiple wax oilings. Very solid.
Rebuilt differential with spitfire 3.89 CROWN gear so the gears are a bit longer than the original 4.11.
It has an lsd! Installed a (very expensive) black line lsd which is basically a cheaper copy of a quaiffe diff. Installed at the same time as the diff was rebuilt. Totally unnecessary but I had fun installing it. Runs perfectly.
The paint is mostly original, combined with patches done by me lol. I loved the ratty look so I treated any surface rust then did a matt clear coat over the car to preserve the look. There is filler (from its many years of bodywork), I've not touched it - I've tried to preserve it, good and bad! I plenty of non structural scabs but all part of the fun. As I said before, the chassis and important bits are in lovely shape.
Interior is new carpets, kept the rear seats in and fronts are leather and alcantara seats from an mg-f.
I got a custom half roll cage made (fia approved) by Caged Laser, It's absolutely beautiful and powder coated in a nice orange. It's a thing of beauty, with custom welded in platforms for it to sit on. The cage is all welded but then bolted into the car (so can be removed). Front harnesses and also bought new red front belts. Cost about £900 plus sending it down to the south coast for them to build and fit it.
I've been working on the car for years, it has been to loads of shows and been in a few stands. It was in the readers car section at the pistonheads 25th anniversary, lots of pics of it on pistonheads. It was also a show car at the petrolhedonism giant Wembley show and was featured in a bunch of videos. Also on the Adam c YouTube channel and others.
Everywhere I go it gets honks and thumbs up. It is an old triumph so it breaks down plenty, people stop to help, it gets a lot of attention and everyone seems to have triumph story which is fun.
I've got plenty of history, everything since I got it (so many receipts) and lots of old history which is really cool. There is a print out of a pic of it from the 80s too!
Some of the parts highlights:
-new hoses and lots of fresh wiring
-large aluminium radiator and twin fans on an electric thermostat so you can adjust the temp the fans cut in at, with a temperature dial. Also got a manual switch in the cabin if you want it just turn them on
-1300 spitfire engine in excellent condition, cylinders recently tested and all at the same psi
-new rocker cover
-spitfire solid rubber spoiler that fits perfectly onto the herald saloon boot lid and looks awesome
-new gaskets everywhere
-gas gold fully adjustable coilovers
-very rare weller steel wheels 13 inch on falken tyres, basically still new. Rear wheels can't be bought new anymore with this size of dish
-spacers on wheels
-rebuilt rear drum brakes, branded hoses all around (Goodrich)
-new front calipers, grooved discs and new high performance pads. Braking is great
-new brake lines
-spitfire accelerator pedal swap
-new high power starter motor 'hardcore'. No spark issues!
-mg-f front seats in leather and alcantara, on their runners (although very tall people will find it a squeeze - my 6 foot friend can drive it no issues though)
-caged lazer half cage bolted in on custom reinforced plates, powder coated
-safety devices orange 4 point harnesses and new front belts in red
-main power cut off switch in cabin to stop any battery drain (fires right up after sitting for weeks)
-alternator cut off switch in cabin (to stop run-on in case battery mains doesn't work - fun motorsport thing that is totally unnecessary but looks cool)
-Vintage smiths stop watch on the dash, to match the dials!
-USB port for phone chargers to replace the Ash tray (3d printed)
- weller steels painted bronze (professionally painted), like new falken and good year tyres
- rat look paint work, a lot of the paint is original (a lot isn't!)
- black line lsd and rebuilt differential with spitfire 3.89 CROWN for aligner gearing
- gear box is original and feels so good, chunky and old school
- 1 inch lowering blocks and extended bolts for the leaf to prop
- 4-2-1 stainless steel manifold with lava heat wrap
- motolito wooden steering wheel
- twin HS4 SU carbs from a 1500 spitfire in lovely condition, rebuilt (multiple times!) with dirty great trumpets and bigger needles, new jets etc
- new water pump, fuel pump, basically everything that has broken has been uprated
- new starter motor, a high power one so it will always turn over. An absolute beast, cost too much money
- 2x fuse boxes added, this herald didn't originally have any fuse boxes as standard
- new Ujs on the rear, new bearings
- new bolts, nuts, fittings all over the place
- rev counter installed (from spitfire) to replace the clock. Lots of other dials
- new backbox
- Genuine vintage hella yellow headlight covers
- front and rear tow hooks bolted directly to the chassis with high strength bolts
- it doesn't leak water into the cabin! Rare in a 1969 car
- doesn't need an mot, and you pay no tax! I pay £120 insurance a year with a classic policy
The bad bits, and there are plenty. I really would say that you need to love working on cars or want to learn to work on them if you're going to be able to enjoy the herald - it's a brilliant always ongoing project car and keeps me busy.
Bad bits:
- exhaust, I've always run the car so ridiculously low. Its total impractical but I just love how it looks and it isn't a daily driver. So I rip the exhaust off all the time. I plan routes to avoid speed bumps. Its made of bits I have collected over time. It'll need either a new exhaust or just be aware its not the best (but sounds brilliant)
- there is a vibration that starts at around 55mph, its likely to be the prop that needs balancing (can just be done by jacking up the rear wheels of the car and adding a jubilee clip to the prop then running it till the vibration stops. I never have the time
- ride height. It's too low really, I run it like this because I love it (and have another classic I use for more regular duties) but most people will want to swap the 1 inch block for a half inch and raise the coilovers on the front a bit to be sensible
- the bodywork is, rough but I've tried to preserve it in all its glory. A few bits of surface rust but I generally treated all rust when I found it
- carbs are running rough, it needs a proper tune up. I'll do some tinkering before people come to look at it. Idles and revs very nicely, can break up under high load, bit of choke solves it.
I've had so much fun with the car and taken it to shows all over the country, but I think I've done everything I want to do on it now. The project for me is over so its time for Harold (yes he has a name) to move on. I have another project that I'm focusing on now and he doesn't get used so much.
You can see the many years of detailed work (success and failures) on the Retro Rides forum, just search for 'triumph herald 13 60 Retro rides' in Google, I also have a long forum page in pistonheads. You'll see all the detail.
Please note the stereo equipment has now been removed and is not included, but wiring for the stereo is left in so you can put one in.
I have huge numbers of spare parts that I'm happy to negotiate separately if interested (or I'll include if it goes for the right price), spare working herald diff (removed perfectly working), carb stuff, lights, pumps etc. Enough to build a new car! If it gets close to the asking price then I'll include them all (you could sell them and make a decent wedge, I just don't have time).
I've loved this car so I hope it goes to a happy new home.
Can you drive it home? Depends how risk-averse you are! I've made plenty of successful journeys and a few not successful ones. Just bring spanners! You'll get a bit gassed by the exhaust but that's part of the fun. Avoid speed bumps. Be ready to do a roadside turn on the carbs if they're running rough.
I would probably suggest a trailer if at all possible but maybe you enjoy risky journeys like me!
I'll never get the money back that I've put into it, someone will get a whole load of great parts at a bargain price, along with a fun new project car!
With a bit of tinkering you could have a killer car ready for show season.
Any questions just DM me on RR, I'll listen to sensible offers but I'm not in a rush to sell him. I'm a straight forward person so I'll tell you the honest truth, I've sold 2 cars previously via RR and both went well and they were happy.
£3995 ono. Very few coupes around and its a solid car in need of a little love.
A million pics!
I've a thread on rr that I've kept pretty up to date, the good and the bad. forum.retro-rides.org/thread/213510/ratty-triumph-herald-13-60
I've got another classic (citi golf) that is getting all my attention and the Herald is just sitting there, apart from the occasional start up to temp and run round the block to keep things loose.
Plus I have 3 kids under 10 so I've no time for 2 classics at the moment.
Listing here first before I delve into the nightmare that is ebay. Someone here might appreciate the car as much as I do! I've poured countless days/evenings into building it, such a fun car to work on.
Ad I've written is below:
Here for sale is my beloved triumph herald 13 60 saloon/coupe (2 door) from 1969, quite modified.
I had a triumph spitfire that was crashed, I bought the spitfire back from insurance and bought the herald as a non runner in late 2019. Then transferred all the mods over from the spitfire to the herald!
The herald has no crash history, nice and straight.
Saloons (or coupe as some seem to call it) are very rare, try and find another for sale. I think they look way meaner than the convertible.
Things done to it (I'll have missed some things, you can find a full record of all the work done on the Retro Rides forum. Search in Google for 'triumph herald 13 60 Retro rides' and you'll find it!).
Replacement 1.3 large crank spitfire engine bought from a very reputable triumph parts seller (Wins International), used but recently rebuilt by the previous owner as part of an abandoned project. I've had a camera inside it and it's barely run in.
I fairly recently did a cylinder pressure test on it, all at exactly the same pressure of about 160psi I think? It's in the thread. Very strong engine.
Running twin hs4 SU carbs with huge velocity trumpets. Sounds absolutely awesome.
Suspension is Gaz Gold adjustable coilovers at the front, gaz gold dampers at the rear and then the leaf spring. It's slammed on the ground due to a leaf being removed from the leaf spring, combined with a 1 inch lowering block.
The chassis had been refurbished before I got it, it's had new rear outriggers and had multiple wax oilings. Very solid.
Rebuilt differential with spitfire 3.89 CROWN gear so the gears are a bit longer than the original 4.11.
It has an lsd! Installed a (very expensive) black line lsd which is basically a cheaper copy of a quaiffe diff. Installed at the same time as the diff was rebuilt. Totally unnecessary but I had fun installing it. Runs perfectly.
The paint is mostly original, combined with patches done by me lol. I loved the ratty look so I treated any surface rust then did a matt clear coat over the car to preserve the look. There is filler (from its many years of bodywork), I've not touched it - I've tried to preserve it, good and bad! I plenty of non structural scabs but all part of the fun. As I said before, the chassis and important bits are in lovely shape.
Interior is new carpets, kept the rear seats in and fronts are leather and alcantara seats from an mg-f.
I got a custom half roll cage made (fia approved) by Caged Laser, It's absolutely beautiful and powder coated in a nice orange. It's a thing of beauty, with custom welded in platforms for it to sit on. The cage is all welded but then bolted into the car (so can be removed). Front harnesses and also bought new red front belts. Cost about £900 plus sending it down to the south coast for them to build and fit it.
I've been working on the car for years, it has been to loads of shows and been in a few stands. It was in the readers car section at the pistonheads 25th anniversary, lots of pics of it on pistonheads. It was also a show car at the petrolhedonism giant Wembley show and was featured in a bunch of videos. Also on the Adam c YouTube channel and others.
Everywhere I go it gets honks and thumbs up. It is an old triumph so it breaks down plenty, people stop to help, it gets a lot of attention and everyone seems to have triumph story which is fun.
I've got plenty of history, everything since I got it (so many receipts) and lots of old history which is really cool. There is a print out of a pic of it from the 80s too!
Some of the parts highlights:
-new hoses and lots of fresh wiring
-large aluminium radiator and twin fans on an electric thermostat so you can adjust the temp the fans cut in at, with a temperature dial. Also got a manual switch in the cabin if you want it just turn them on
-1300 spitfire engine in excellent condition, cylinders recently tested and all at the same psi
-new rocker cover
-spitfire solid rubber spoiler that fits perfectly onto the herald saloon boot lid and looks awesome
-new gaskets everywhere
-gas gold fully adjustable coilovers
-very rare weller steel wheels 13 inch on falken tyres, basically still new. Rear wheels can't be bought new anymore with this size of dish
-spacers on wheels
-rebuilt rear drum brakes, branded hoses all around (Goodrich)
-new front calipers, grooved discs and new high performance pads. Braking is great
-new brake lines
-spitfire accelerator pedal swap
-new high power starter motor 'hardcore'. No spark issues!
-mg-f front seats in leather and alcantara, on their runners (although very tall people will find it a squeeze - my 6 foot friend can drive it no issues though)
-caged lazer half cage bolted in on custom reinforced plates, powder coated
-safety devices orange 4 point harnesses and new front belts in red
-main power cut off switch in cabin to stop any battery drain (fires right up after sitting for weeks)
-alternator cut off switch in cabin (to stop run-on in case battery mains doesn't work - fun motorsport thing that is totally unnecessary but looks cool)
-Vintage smiths stop watch on the dash, to match the dials!
-USB port for phone chargers to replace the Ash tray (3d printed)
- weller steels painted bronze (professionally painted), like new falken and good year tyres
- rat look paint work, a lot of the paint is original (a lot isn't!)
- black line lsd and rebuilt differential with spitfire 3.89 CROWN for aligner gearing
- gear box is original and feels so good, chunky and old school
- 1 inch lowering blocks and extended bolts for the leaf to prop
- 4-2-1 stainless steel manifold with lava heat wrap
- motolito wooden steering wheel
- twin HS4 SU carbs from a 1500 spitfire in lovely condition, rebuilt (multiple times!) with dirty great trumpets and bigger needles, new jets etc
- new water pump, fuel pump, basically everything that has broken has been uprated
- new starter motor, a high power one so it will always turn over. An absolute beast, cost too much money
- 2x fuse boxes added, this herald didn't originally have any fuse boxes as standard
- new Ujs on the rear, new bearings
- new bolts, nuts, fittings all over the place
- rev counter installed (from spitfire) to replace the clock. Lots of other dials
- new backbox
- Genuine vintage hella yellow headlight covers
- front and rear tow hooks bolted directly to the chassis with high strength bolts
- it doesn't leak water into the cabin! Rare in a 1969 car
- doesn't need an mot, and you pay no tax! I pay £120 insurance a year with a classic policy
The bad bits, and there are plenty. I really would say that you need to love working on cars or want to learn to work on them if you're going to be able to enjoy the herald - it's a brilliant always ongoing project car and keeps me busy.
Bad bits:
- exhaust, I've always run the car so ridiculously low. Its total impractical but I just love how it looks and it isn't a daily driver. So I rip the exhaust off all the time. I plan routes to avoid speed bumps. Its made of bits I have collected over time. It'll need either a new exhaust or just be aware its not the best (but sounds brilliant)
- there is a vibration that starts at around 55mph, its likely to be the prop that needs balancing (can just be done by jacking up the rear wheels of the car and adding a jubilee clip to the prop then running it till the vibration stops. I never have the time
- ride height. It's too low really, I run it like this because I love it (and have another classic I use for more regular duties) but most people will want to swap the 1 inch block for a half inch and raise the coilovers on the front a bit to be sensible
- the bodywork is, rough but I've tried to preserve it in all its glory. A few bits of surface rust but I generally treated all rust when I found it
- carbs are running rough, it needs a proper tune up. I'll do some tinkering before people come to look at it. Idles and revs very nicely, can break up under high load, bit of choke solves it.
I've had so much fun with the car and taken it to shows all over the country, but I think I've done everything I want to do on it now. The project for me is over so its time for Harold (yes he has a name) to move on. I have another project that I'm focusing on now and he doesn't get used so much.
You can see the many years of detailed work (success and failures) on the Retro Rides forum, just search for 'triumph herald 13 60 Retro rides' in Google, I also have a long forum page in pistonheads. You'll see all the detail.
Please note the stereo equipment has now been removed and is not included, but wiring for the stereo is left in so you can put one in.
I have huge numbers of spare parts that I'm happy to negotiate separately if interested (or I'll include if it goes for the right price), spare working herald diff (removed perfectly working), carb stuff, lights, pumps etc. Enough to build a new car! If it gets close to the asking price then I'll include them all (you could sell them and make a decent wedge, I just don't have time).
I've loved this car so I hope it goes to a happy new home.
Can you drive it home? Depends how risk-averse you are! I've made plenty of successful journeys and a few not successful ones. Just bring spanners! You'll get a bit gassed by the exhaust but that's part of the fun. Avoid speed bumps. Be ready to do a roadside turn on the carbs if they're running rough.
I would probably suggest a trailer if at all possible but maybe you enjoy risky journeys like me!
I'll never get the money back that I've put into it, someone will get a whole load of great parts at a bargain price, along with a fun new project car!
With a bit of tinkering you could have a killer car ready for show season.
Any questions just DM me on RR, I'll listen to sensible offers but I'm not in a rush to sell him. I'm a straight forward person so I'll tell you the honest truth, I've sold 2 cars previously via RR and both went well and they were happy.
£3995 ono. Very few coupes around and its a solid car in need of a little love.
A million pics!
