More mods required.

[Darrel]

I think last night proved a point. There are so many visitors to this site, and so many posts everyday I think the moderating team just cant keep up. Ive seen instances of threads that should be deleted hours before a mod finally see's it. That along with the fact that I pop on here quite a bit at night and a lot of people post on here then, but no mods. there is a big potential of not only a repeat of last night, but also a web bot posting porn images all over the place. I really don't like forums with lots of mods, but when you look at how many members we have visit every 24 hours its pretty amazing.

[HoTWire]

People I trust to moderate how I want this place moderated are hard to find.

[Deleted]

Sorry but no way , Think this place runs very well the way it is , you're always going to get people throwing their toys out the pram , don't know what happened last night as i was'nt on here but it seems to have been sorted now , theres another forum that i used to visit and it became stupid , felt like there was more mods than members , even the mods could'nt decide what was right and wrong and ended up being the cause of most arguments , even arguing between themselves some times , I hav'nt seen anything on here that makes me want more mods , on the whole everyone is friendly and curtious to each other and thats what makes this place great as far as I'm concerned .

[akku]

you'll occasionally get some curse word. Thats the internet. On the whole we don't get much curse word here. You can't prevent there from being any curse word at all. Its more about how its dealt with and how we move on from the not-too-much we do get I guess.

[PandaSelecta]

Well if we ever get to the stage when we DO need another mod, i vote for AK (or myself )

[akku]

I vote for anybody except me.

But remember, HW has been quite specific that this is not a democracy.

Jan 18, 2009 19:00:25 GMT HoTWire said:

People I trust to moderate how I want this place moderated are hard to find.

I suspect I'm not on the list.

I once moderated another forum and that was a thankless task. Takes much of the enjoyment out of a forum when you have to behave and apply the rules fairly and consistantly.

So HW and I can agree on this one

[bstardchild]

Jan 19, 2009 16:40:45 GMT akku said:

I vote for anybody except me.

But remember, HW has been quite specific that this is not a democracy.

That made me LOL a lot ;D

Jan 18, 2009 19:00:25 GMT HoTWire said:

People I trust to moderate how I want this place moderated are hard to find.

Jan 19, 2009 16:40:45 GMT akku said:

I suspect I'm not on the list.

I once moderated another forum and that was a thankless task. Takes much of the enjoyment out of a forum when you have to behave and apply the rules fairly and consistantly.

So HW and I can agree on this one

I partially agree with that too

- thankless task - maybe but the moderation team was thanked at the RR awards night and for me that was really nice - meant a lot

- takes enjoyment out of the forum - yep a little bit but "I" view it as giving a bit back to the forum

- behave and apply the rules fairly and consistantly - yep and sometimes thats difficult when several people are responsible for moderation however "we" have some guidance in the subject and it seems to work OK

The problem is this forum has got a lot busier (membership wise) recently and to be honest some of the content has been curse word

- the whinge bin is a reaction to that and part of the education process

- the RR manifesto is the guide to posting - it shouldn't take a moderator to point out to members who aren't totally used to this place's "unique" ethos that a post isn't conforming

LOL cats are avaliable to all members and can be used to nicely and without offending "If you haven't read the RR manifesto might be a good idea if you did"

All I have to add

[HoTWire]

Might I just add, this is STILL the best forum on the internet for this stuff,.. in any language, trust me, I visit a lot.

I suspect that most forums would have long ago collapsed under the weight of membership. It is easy to be fun and friendly when you have 200 members,.. when you have nearly 7,000, at least 900 of which are active each day... it becomes a bit more difficult... we do pretty well I suspect, one bust up every couple of years is an inevitable result of volume of people. Just check out the attitude you get on other large forums.

I think RR has done spectacularly well. It can do better, and will. No point in getting relaxed, we're number one, but we always try harder.

[retrowagen1234]

I'm very very happy with the way the forum is run. ive mucked up a few times and the mods are allways good enough to deal with things in a good way. and not start massive arguementitive uproars like you would find elsewhere, i think that if you see something or read somthing here that you don't nessicarily like then take that as part of being a adult. it happens in real life and on the internet. and if its bad enough or breaks any rules then you can rest assured that it will be removed, moved or locked in due course

[BenzBoy]

I think you moderators have had a rough ride lately - demands for bans, additional boards, thread deletion, etc., plus having to deal with the recent fracas and make decisions which are fair to everyone and not harmful to the forum... it's a very tough task!

I can't say I'm not a little bit concerned about how things are going lately, but the only way to go from here is to input more quality. I'll try to do my bit.

[reanimation]

Agree with BC and HTW. It has got busy recently, makes it difficult for users and mods.
Its amazing it works with so few active mods. Just 3? three good mods. (compliment, not a crit at all)Regular members help by doing a good job of self policing, they have since I have been about. self policing isn't about getting high and mighty, self rightous or bullying though, just saying hey chap, this isn't how we do it, try this. this used to work.

I also agree with HTW, I have been digging for (push) bike info recently and the aggro and cocky kids on these forums make it difficult to get on with things and also ya can't believe any of their judgements and I have no idea who the mods are. Same with car forums, a popular marque specific one was very difficult to get on with, gave up, not for me.

Retro Rides has a certain magic vibe from its direction and members quality input.

[Seth]

It'll all end in tears!

[HoTWire]

Won't someone think of the deckchairs!!

[Speedman]

Moderation is a very difficult task, I'm mod on a couple of forums and its far from an easy life trying to keep everyone happy, most forums are fine until they grow in size like RR.

IMHO the whinge bin is a mistake, it just seems to encourage people to start threads to go in there diluting the quality, however I do feel some negativity should be allowed, we can't all like the same stuff so constructive criticism is a good outlet, but gets squashed too easily.

The number of mods is about right, however (and its not a dig at anyone just stating an observation) there only seems to be three that are regulars and actively moderate, one hasn't logged in since last August! We have a similar problem on one of the forums I'm on, eight moderators but only a couple really do the moderation, so if they aren't on nothing happens.

[metroman81]

Think problem on Saturday was Skool offered to buy a magazine collection. Then certain brainless people from the un pr******* cl******** forum,kicked off the same who followed him over from it just to cause trouble.

Having to work with him and listening to the whingeing over this,is doing my head in. The mods were right on this bar banning Skool for nothing.

We are trying to start up a business and continually,the selling thread as been ruined by people just out for a dig at Skool. Being a moderator you have to have abit of give and take,not easy with some regards Jason

[HoTWire]

I don't want to get into this Again!. But I see this situation as a two way street and everyone got dealt with the same, or would have if some hadn't stomped off.

If someone would tell me exactly what Oldskool1977 has done wrong on this forum via PM (still no one has,.. just what he "potentially might do") that would be great.


As Rmad pointed out once, people say "he's going to troll on threads", and then the same people proceeded to troll on any thread he put up... its like punching me in the face in order to tell me that someone else might punch me in the face.

At the same time OldSkool needs to be less defensive and let things spiral out of hand. He isn't banned his account is disabled for a week. Same as I've done to other people to give them and everyone else a chance to get some perspective, and hopefully come back with a better frame of mind.

If I'm supplied with evidence of wrong doing I cant react to it. The last contact I had about OS was December 17th, which was about the stock car/hot rods thread that went a bit weird.

I might awesome, but I'm not godlike in my ability to see all on this forum, I rely on the users to tell me or the other mods whats going on some times, particularly in the for sale section. If the community can't work together to make for a better community there is no hope.

[daverapid]

Unfortunately we lost 2 great members that night, not just one. Pogweasel and Rev. Dick.

I really hope they come back. RR is still great, but a poorer place without them.

[donttellhimpike]

this was the first forum i ever signed up to [and not that long ago i might add] since then i am a member at other forums, i can say in my minimal experience that there isn't a forum that i have come across as well modded as RR [or as well anythinked!!] i actually dealt with those concerned in this incident , trying to purchase goods from both ,i found one of them very helpful indeed ! the other however spoke in riddles and messed about !!

on a different subject i am the president of an angling club in nottingham [my guilty pleasure ,sorry] and let me tell you getting a group of men to agree on anything is difficult enough let alone a couple[?] of thousand !!!!!
hats off to the mods ,and if they need any help they will tell us ,we have no need to tell them

[Hirst]

I'm not on PC forum so I can't comment on what Oldskool has done there, but what he does here is (seemingly randomly?) delete/edit his posts, often on threads he's started himself, meaning the thread makes no sense anymore. I have no idea why he does it, would love to know why, just out of curiousity really.

The problem is: how do you provide evidence of something when it has been deleted? There actually was a really good example which I was going to PM over, a thread created in For Sale about a Nissan Silvia for sale, he deleted his original post so it was just a few people talking about a car that wasn't there. Why? No reason supplied. The thread itself disappeared the day after I think.

Hope that helps somehow.

[HoTWire]

Okay thats good to know,.. If he returns, as I hope everyone involved int his weirdness does, I'll try and find out why he deletes the original posts. As I can see that being quite frustrating.... not frustrating enough to make me quit a forum in anger,.. but strange behaviour.

I saw that thread, and it was me that deleted it as it seemed to have no purpose any more as the original post was deleted. That has happened quite a few times on here with a lot of different users, mainly because deleting a starting post doesn't delete a thread, which I guess is most peoples expected behaviour when they do that.

Any other examples on here? Not witch hunting but I'd like to know the scale of this issue. I've gone through a lot of OS' post history and seen a lot of people trolling on his posts without much provocation, and I'd like to know the reason rational people start acting like lunatics. Maybe the bad bits have been deleted??