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Sept 29, 2010 19:18:49 GMT
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That's an excellent find! I've heard for reports on an 'abandoned Atlas in Southampton' for some years now, the last time from a guy who just wanted it to weigh it in...
I hope you're successful Dan. We had an Atlas panel van converted into a caravanette. It was fitted with a Spitfire Mk3 (75bhp) engine, overdrive gearbox and discs and was a right laugh by all accounts! Later Leyland 20s were basically modified Atlases, sometimes with a slightly longer wheelbase, fitted with 1991cc Standard Ensign engines. A number of vans were converted to TR4A specification engine-wise (105bhp) and were quite capable.
All Atlases and 20s sit on a massive ladder chassis which is phenomenally over-engineered. You're very unlikely to encounter problems in that respect, but panels are another matter... If you do go ahead with the van I may know someone with some NOS panels, whilst I must be the only person in the world with all five volumes of the Standard Atlas workshop manual!!! I'd be happy to contribute them to your good cause should you secure it.
Best of luck!
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Sept 29, 2010 19:35:00 GMT
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i think i'd be sitting outside standing guard! tuck up in the carlton!
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Sept 29, 2010 19:44:03 GMT
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That's an excellent find! I've heard for reports on an 'abandoned Atlas in Southampton' for some years now, the last time from a guy who just wanted it to weigh it in... I hope you're successful Dan. We had an Atlas panel van converted into a caravanette. It was fitted with a Spitfire Mk3 (75bhp) engine, overdrive gearbox and discs and was a right laugh by all accounts! Later Leyland 20s were basically modified Atlases, sometimes with a slightly longer wheelbase, fitted with 1991cc Standard Ensign engines. A number of vans were converted to TR4A specification engine-wise (105bhp) and were quite capable. All Atlases and 20s sit on a massive ladder chassis which is phenomenally over-engineered. You're very unlikely to encounter problems in that respect, but panels are another matter... If you do go ahead with the van I may know someone with some NOS panels, whilst I must be the only person in the world with all five volumes of the Standard Atlas workshop manual!!! I'd be happy to contribute them to your good cause should you secure it. Best of luck! bloomin eck cheers mate, thats some spot on info there  and cheers for the offer on the manuals too  Realy happy about the ladder chassis , as i was worried it would be like welding up a vw van all over again. (not a fun expierience) but as the body can come off (ish) would make it alot easier. how the hell do you know of NOS parts tho lol... I'm supprised standard made enough to build the vans haha |
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Sept 29, 2010 19:44:37 GMT
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I think i'd be sitting outside standing guard! tuck up in the carlton! tempted... quite alot... lol but i thinks thats bordering on stalker ;D |
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Sept 29, 2010 20:03:57 GMT
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I know a couple of elderly gents that had a number of Atlases between them, one of which is pretty local to you in Winchester. Also there's a guy in Ferndown who is sitting on a huge stash of generic NOS Standard parts, some of them usable on the little vans.
The last I heard there were reputed to be seven panel vans left and about a dozen or so campers of various origin. There are also a number of sundry pick-ups and real rarities like a Leyland 20-based recovery truck. I think Canley Classics still have their powder blue van and Bill at Rare Bits For Classics certainly has one.
Atlases can rust pretty much anywhere, but it is usually the front valance and door-bottoms that go frilly first. They have a very substantial 'bulkhead' of sorts behind the seats and a massive engine cover. As I dimly recall the gearlever cranks forward via a long extension.
For inspiration try finding pictures of the drag racing one featured in CC a few years ago. It was in grey primer and had a mid-mounted 7.2 litre MOPAR!
It'd be cool to get the one you find and just 'make do and mend' with it, not a rat as such, just an honest working van. I'm trying to find a picture of our caravanette which had, I now recall, banded rims too!
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Sept 29, 2010 20:08:45 GMT
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haha bloomin eck your brilliant The more i think about this the more i have to stop myself from going down there and knocking the door right now in the dark... ;D Right.... peoples.... reccomend me an engine... and anyone got an idea what pcd these are? lol I'm off to hunt for the custom car featured one  |
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Sept 29, 2010 20:24:12 GMT
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Right I'm thinking.... *TDI POWER *autobox *discs up front *banded detailed rostyles *big fat exhaust, painted black, straight cut out of the rear at an angle.. this size  Inside *loads and loads of dynamat!!! *electric power steering? although I don't mind luggin it around *some nice comfy seats up front possibly heated, possibly leather think, using it daily and how nice you would want it to be... I.e not worry about it too much,and for it to be a nice place to spend a road trip... getting abit ahead of myself much |
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Sept 29, 2010 20:34:08 GMT
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if it was me i'd think i hunt out a nice sherpa with the perkins prima lump. compact and hopefully nice and easy to fit. just remembered where there was an atlas, but be amazed if still there. lol and i might get done for trespassing but i'll try get out at somepoint and have a wander over some fences.
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Sept 29, 2010 20:37:28 GMT
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haha do it , dooooo it |
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Sept 29, 2010 21:44:05 GMT
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Well, they're a four stud from the Standard Triumph stable, so I think the vans were either 3.75" PCD or 4.5. I'd err on the former as I don't remember there being any jiggery-pokery getting the banded steels on and they were deffo 3.75".
If you want to go for an easy option, why not just put a 1493cc engine and automatic gearbox from a Dolomite in there? The block would mount as per the original and you could use the Dolomite bolt-in crossmember to support the back of the automatic gearbox. There's a guy in Eastleigh who almost certainly has these bits.
Rover Metro GTA/GTi seats are an excellent option in little vans, as they're very compact and cheap as chips! You could even go nuts and fit rear ones too... Try to google Atlas Minibus or similar, there's a beautiful 12,000 miler owned by a member of the TSSC.
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Sept 29, 2010 21:55:14 GMT
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Sept 29, 2010 22:24:54 GMT
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Holy Shazbat. With all this inspiration flying around, if you don't do it I'm sure there'll be a fair number in the queue behind you... Don't bogart that van my friend, pass it on, pass it along |
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Sept 30, 2010 6:16:14 GMT
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Well, they're a four stud from the Standard Triumph stable, so I think the vans were either 3.75" PCD or 4.5. I'd err on the former as I don't remember there being any jiggery-pokery getting the banded steels on and they were deffo 3.75". If you want to go for an easy option, why not just put a 1493cc engine and automatic gearbox from a Dolomite in there? The block would mount as per the original and you could use the Dolomite bolt-in crossmember to support the back of the automatic gearbox. There's a guy in Eastleigh who almost certainly has these bits. Rover Metro GTA/GTi seats are an excellent option in little vans, as they're very compact and cheap as chips! You could even go nuts and fit rear ones too... Try to google Atlas Minibus or similar, there's a beautiful 12,000 miler owned by a member of the TSSC. ahhh that seems good. was worried it might have massive pcd and hubs like alot of vans. I'm tempted by the dolomite lump idea. The only reason i say tdi is i love the torque in those things... and having an ancient british van able to keep up with and overtake modern traffic would be nuts I mean picture that lil thing coming up in your rear view mirror! haha also whos the guy in eastleigh that might be able to help? Is it the guy that used to be over chickenall lane? , If so i think he passed away... all the cars are still there but i don't think the wife will sell... also bryn , ill make sure i rehome it if its too bad for me... I remember this thing being there since forever (in my life) so i do have a soft spot for it, and realy do feel it needs to be saved Chances are ill get it trailered back here before that decision is made.. Unless theres something stopping me like a lack of anything solid to connect a winch to |
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Sept 30, 2010 6:18:43 GMT
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Bloody hell I'm stupid... Ive been here thinking bout what would be the easiest way to get it home... I forget ive got the carlton with a towbar now haha... All id need is a trailer... plus the van is LESS than a mile from my house ;D All ive got to do is turn out of the road its on and go about 1/4 mile down a straight road to be home |
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the conrod's REALLY out the block now!
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Sept 30, 2010 10:49:20 GMT
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how much do I want to go and pilfer bits o' tat from the remains of that ^^ yard??
following the link, the ca luton van almost looks saveable!!
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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Sept 30, 2010 12:28:14 GMT
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we'll get it out rope, chain. if can get air in there will tow half a mile no probs. If they are 3.75" pcd almost certainly got some rims knocking about to get it rolling. cerainly will get on my trailer ok, though my winch lil buggered now so rachet straps easier. but if can get a daimler soverign on can certainly get that on! or come and borrow the 7.5tonner tilt n slidy
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Sept 30, 2010 12:53:23 GMT
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1/4 mile? - ffs you'll PUSH that home if enough of you southern RR'rs get round there!
big hammer, few whacks to free the brakes, and keep a watch out for the coppers!
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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Sept 30, 2010 12:53:38 GMT
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Good luck with the save. Most cool if it comes off and gets to live again.
Dunno why but it's 'face' made me think of Dougal / Magic Roundabout... ;D
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'66 Amazon <-> '94 LS400 <-> '86 Suzuki 1135 EFE
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Sept 30, 2010 13:53:50 GMT
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if the house is empty the mail behind the door will be pilling up, and so your letter will all to soon be lost, i have been in plenty of empty houses working and the mail is always just left by everyone for someone else!
ask the neighbor if the old boy is still about, but you need to get something on the van, a note in a pollywallet behind the window wiper etc, as i have a feeling the van will go before your letter is opened!
if the old guy has passed, and his family are dealing with it, they may just phone the scrap man and say move the van from here when you can, even try and find out who the family is!
i missed out on a car in a similar way, kept passing it always going to ask, then one day it was just gone! then however it turned up in the paper 6-8 months later and 60 miles away forsale, it was bought and now 95% restored and should be finished by christmas!!
good luck and keep us posted
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