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Jan 19, 2011 23:30:31 GMT
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I am not an idiot i know that classics are hardly safe. i quiet like Dubs but i also like oldskool Japanese cars.
i posted this more to see what you guys thought would be a good first car according to those guide lines.
but thanks for the advice. and no micra's sorry ugly as sin but each to there own
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mk14dr
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I'd be buying a K10/K11 micra it is was me. We all know what a first car gets used for and basically you don't want to be cutting your teeth on anything too nice.
But then again theres a couple of chaps and lasses on here that have had interesting stuff for their first ride.
Early Novas are a rare sight these days, as are Mk1/mk2 and to a certain extent mk3 fiestas.
Triumph Hereld? Or a Dolly/Toledo? Maybe a Farina of some description? A little more modern you could look at and e30 316 or 318?
Of course, none of these will be very good in an accident if you do plan to stuff it in the scenary.
Also, you say you want decent handling. What to you constitutes decent handling? Whats your benchmark?
My K10 is decent enough for me day to day....
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Last Edit: Jan 20, 2011 6:28:05 GMT by mk14dr
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ZXRob
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I would say mk2/3 polo as they are still cheap enough to buy and look cool aswell and the handling can be made ok. Or as said Nova, mk1/2 fiesta or mk3 I had one in my first year of driving and had many a laugh in that car. Or a nissan sunny 1.4 not the best looking car but will take all the abuse you will throw at it (talking again from experience)
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ZXRob
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Or an AX they are great car and all you would have to do is lower it on bandies and it would look awesome!
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This thread has made me realise how different everyones ideas are about what is retro. I wouldn't consider a Micra, an AX, or a Mk2 Polo retro, too young for me.
OP - what era are you looking at?
Size of car?
We could be throwing suggestions at you all day........
E.g. Hillman Imp, Vauxhall Viva, Austin A40, Mk1 Cavalier
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I think that alot of people started in a Mini because they were and are I fun cheap car to run, you can still find the odd bargain out there, an 850cc mini would be a very good start with you being able to put a 998cc in for some cheap extra power, and they handle so well too, any old classic car will fold up in a smash, so maybe you should think whats more important to you ? thats my say on it  |
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Last Edit: Jan 20, 2011 9:58:20 GMT by rusty998
MK2 Cortina Estate
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Jan 20, 2011 11:23:07 GMT
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I'll throw my vote in for a mk1 Fiesta. Old and cool, easy to work on, modern enough to be 'normal' to drive, still cheap to buy... Me and bec are toying with the idea of selling hers since she's now bought the Passat. We're pretty torn because we love it but it nolonger has any practical daily use unless I start using it for my commute.
I'd almost be tempted to go older though.. I can vouch for Triumph Heralds being fantastic if you want a 'starter' classic car.
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Jan 20, 2011 11:53:13 GMT
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Jan 20, 2011 11:57:03 GMT
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My 17 year old son has a Triumph Herald sitting on the driveway waiting for when he passes his test. From what I could tell, nothing other than 'recognised' classics (Pre 75 Minors, Minis, Heralds etc) will have reasonable insurance. Even a Micra or Mk1 Fiesta was prohibitively expensive to insure. Your criteria isn't really that clear, but if you want cheap, retro and different you're going to have to put up with technology and safety from the over thirty years ago,,,are you up for that? You can make old cars safer and faster but you're insurance criteria is out of the window then!  Is this cool to you? |
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Jan 20, 2011 12:15:08 GMT
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Mini isn't that bad in a crash compared to many of its contemporaries. The K10 Micra is far worse for example. Just as a "BTW".
Again, pick an era, pick a vibe. My first (legit) car was a Morris Minor, I'd still recommend them as a first car now "a few" years later. I did sort of own a Himman Avenger before that. But for various reasons that doesn't really count.
Best thing is to look around on the web, at shows, in Reader Rides and see what cars float your boat and then research up on thier pitfalls. Google or asking on here (with pics etc!)
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jan 20, 2011 12:24:47 GMT
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Thanks for all Your advice your quiet a open forum which is good. i have to say that herald is sweet something like that would be awesome. basically my dad has two cars a crapy Citroën Xsara and a Nissan 300zx 3.0 liter twin turbo. and he is selling the Nissan to part fund me a car but as this has not sold because there isn't that much money about at the moment i might just end up having his Xsara, so i just wanted to get an idea of some cars that you lot would say would be appropriate. because I'm on the cusp of passing my test. I was offered through my dad a really nice Nissan Bluebird but it had had a Nissan Siliva's engine put in with a turbo so would be about 250BHP and i would never get insurance. how much for a herald and whats the insurance like.
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Jan 20, 2011 15:05:31 GMT
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This thread has made me realise how different everyones ideas are about what is retro. I wouldn't consider a Micra, an AX, or a Mk2 Polo retro, too young for me. OP - what era are you looking at? Size of car? We could be throwing suggestions at you all day........ E.g. Hillman Imp, Vauxhall Viva, Austin A40, Mk1 Cavalier Al, to be honest, even though I suggested a Micra, I have to agree. It's as mk14dr said above, I don't think it's a fantastic idea to start out in something nice. I did and it went horribly wrong. Though Dollys do take a minor hit quite well at least.  OP, I suggest calling a few insurance companies and asking a few questions about insuring a Herald, maybe even going so far as to get a quote. I'm assuming you're 17/18 so finding classic insurance 'could' be a bit of a pain. I know they wouldn't touch me until I turned 21. Have a picture of a Herald.  |
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Jan 20, 2011 15:13:00 GMT
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I managed to be young and insured on a Herald for not too much money by being a member of TSSC. They have a club deal with a couple insurers, and one of their criteria is that the insurers/brokers honour the club deal to members regardless of age. That one above looks like Mrs Seth's Herald to me. Lovely car  |
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Jan 20, 2011 18:00:59 GMT
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what sort of price's are nice Herald's going for.
and are tho slugs because i might need to go on the motorway.
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Jan 20, 2011 19:07:01 GMT
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sorry terrible spelling
what sort of prices are nice Herald's going for.
and are they slugs because i might need to go on motorways.
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Jan 20, 2011 19:20:40 GMT
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I'd suggest browsing through a site like this www.carandclassic.co.uk/To get a good idea of prices for different cars. Also, look at the price guide in the back of Practical Classics mag, but that hasn't got as many pictures as the web ;D Once you see cars in your budget that you like the look of, just look on Wikipedia and find a little more about them and use that info to decide if you think they should be on your shortlist. Then ask away, there are guaranteed to be people on here who can then give you more info. What I would say is, if you are going to be doing motorway driving, as a very rough rule of thumb, stay away from 4 speeders. A lot of Triumphs have an Overdrive box, which makes a big difference, but most 4 speeders, even up to a Mk1 Polo can be more wearing at motorway speeds. Depends on how the cars are geared, but it is a general rule. |
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Last Edit: Jan 20, 2011 19:22:55 GMT by alolympic
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Jan 20, 2011 19:27:26 GMT
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Is this cool to you? Sorry, thread Hijack. What are those wheels, are they the same as Bruce had on his Rascal? or are they a Lotus wheel? just not seen them on a Triumph before. Lovely..... |
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Foxy
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Jan 20, 2011 19:34:54 GMT
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Pug 205 Baguette Chaser!
Spent a bit of last year hooning around the UK in a 1984 model that belonged to Mike D on here, it was a properly fabulous and hateful piece of machinery!
I loved it! ;D
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I'm the handsome fella with the cheesy white specs or is that the cheesy fella with the handsome white specs?
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