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Nov 14, 2023 14:11:36 GMT
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These are friction drives where the belt only drives on its angled flanks. As it is used it wears on those angled flanks and narrows. Yeah. I suspect that they're pretty hard on the belts anyway, given that the belt itself is effectively the friction surface that takes up the drive, but I would think that the brief period of being ragged senseless around a field after its prolonged layup probably took a belt that was just about hanging in there and turned it to scrap in a few hours. The old belt still bears its Comet branding and numbers, and given the car's low mileage, it's probably the original from when the car was new 23 years ago. Driving on its edges, as you say, means it sits in the vee of the pulleys, so given that this one is worn to about 2/3 of its original thickness, that's why it is now so slack. In use, the belt is supposed to be just slack enough to allow the drive pulley to spin freely then, as the revs rise and the top pulley closes up, it grabs the belt just above tickover and off you go. Because the original is now so slack, it doesn't grab the belt until the engine is revving pretty hard, which is why takeup is so hard and snatchy. The Dutch report belt life of up to 20,000km, but that's in a country where hill starts are going to be much less of an issue than the UK, particularly where I live. It's a system that's probably way better suited to go-karts and golf buggies than a road car in the UK, but we will just have to see how well it stands up once it's back on the road. Hopefully, driven sympathetically, I will see a reasonable life in terms of time as I am only needing to do 1000 miles a year on my commute, so if I can get 2-3 years out of a £50 belt I'll be happy enough. I think Zelandeth has a similar system on his Invacar, so I would anticipate similar belt life once everything has polished itself up again.
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glenanderson
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Nov 14, 2023 12:30:31 GMT
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Yeah, life and weather is pretty much stopping play at the moment.
I have had more belt progress though.
Turns out that the "right" belt for Dutch market Cantas is the wrong one for the three UK ones. The bigger engine means the pulleys are further apart, so the belt needs to be longer. Something that's quite obvious once you actually start properly looking at it. Doh.
This means a couple of things. Firstly, the non-appearing belts from the Dutch supplier wouldn't have fitted anyway (they have finally confirmed that they have my money, and have cancelled the sale, but have applied a credit to my account rather than a refund. I am now attempting to get said refund rather than having credit at a shop with nothing I want to buy in it). Secondly, the two belts I got from the supplier in the US don't fit either.
There's no adjustment on these. Pulley centres are meant to be fixed, and belt length is critical.
This is where it gets complicated. For the system we have, stock pulley centres are, from memory*, 10" and 13". Typically, on here we have 12", and no means of adjusting it.
I am pretty sure that the reason for this is that there simply isn't room to move the bigger engine any further than it currently sits from the gearbox input without hitting either structure or bodywork. This means the factory probably made the decision to compromise and use a non-standard belt. Guess what? The belt that I need is a Comet 704146... the same size as was originally fitted. Closer examination of that old belt shows that it's significantly worn; particularly on its width, which explains why it seemed so slack.
So. I now have two new belts in my posession that are too small, that I am hoping I can recoup the bulk of their purchase cost by selling them via the Canta facebook page, and about 70 euros credit at a Dutch parts place that I am trying to get refunded to my account.
Helpfully though, Belt Palace in Warsaw, Indiana, have come up trumps again with the right size belts, that they shipped out to me earlier this week. Obviously, I have had to pay freight and will no doubt get stung for customs fees, but at least there appears to be light at the end of the belt tunnel at last.
I need to survey the door lock barrel setup so I can make a decision about ignition locks. Ideally, I would like the doors and ignition all on one key if I can, so buying a lock set for a Berlingo/Partner looks to be the way to go, provided the door barrels look comparable.
More as it happens.
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glenanderson
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Nov 14, 2023 12:07:40 GMT
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I'd probably go white on the wheels.
What are you using for derusting?
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glenanderson
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Nov 11, 2023 14:13:10 GMT
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I know what my wife would say if I bought that home with a bow on it for her… 🤣
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glenanderson
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I have absolutely no opinion to offer on style.
I drive a Land-Rover. That should say everything about just how much weight I give to anything that’s not there because it needs to be.
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glenanderson
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...you do realise I’m retired? I hadn't spotted that somewhat significant fact. I'm not necessarily looking forward to retirement, but I am looking forward to working to my own schedule rather than someone else's. That and not having to get up at 03:00 for an early shift.
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Excellent but I thought it's the 10mm we're supposed to lose, 😁😁 Nigel In foreign/modern/metric world it's 10mm that's most vulnerable, yes; but in the world of almost proper measurements it's the 7/16" AF that goes walkies the most, which is as close as dammit to 11mm... And real men lose their 3/16" Whitworth.
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Excellent.
Hopefully you don’t lose it now. 😉
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glenanderson
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I wonder if glenanderson would be able to use your knowledge and access to weirdness’s My knowledge and weirdness is open to the entire RR community. Oh. I can also help you out with tyres... I am aware of the BigTyres website. I’ve had a bookmarked page for tyres for my Austin for a while. I was not aware that the boss man there was a resident here though; that’s good to know. 👍👍
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glenanderson
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Really nice work. 👍
I wish I could match your progress. Most of the time I am just too tired after work to even start.
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glenanderson
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I would often sooner burn stuff than deal with people too.
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glenanderson
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Result! 👍👍
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glenanderson
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Condolences mate.
For what it’s worth, having relatively recently handled my mum’s probate, it’s not too difficult. If you get stuck, drop me a PM.
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glenanderson
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1932 Ford 5W Coupe.glenanderson
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Ooh! I haven't seen one like that since my apprenticeship days (70-74). Me neither. Although my apprenticeship was a bit later, 85-89, I’m fairly sure the machinery was the same. 😃👍
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glenanderson
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Oct 29, 2023 18:11:13 GMT
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Excellent progress. 👍👍
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I’m a bit (completely) out of my depth with auto boxes, but it sounds plausible.
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glenanderson
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Oct 28, 2023 10:08:46 GMT
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I think I might have to get around to giving this plating lark a go.
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glenanderson
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Can’t hurt.
Puts me in mind of a problem with the magneto on a bike I used to have. I rebuilt it several times, but only actually cured the problem by replacing it with a completely different one. I suspect that the main casing must have had a flaw that was undetectable to the naked eye.
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glenanderson
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Oct 27, 2023 13:09:51 GMT
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Well, the only bright side I can see is that you’ll always know where your 11mm spanner is…
Grabs coat and runs for the door…
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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glenanderson
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Oct 27, 2023 10:17:47 GMT
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Oh poo...
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