Paint Mix Issues! Driving me mad...

[GavinJ]

Hi all,

Need someone that knows about celly paint and the mixing process...

Basically I have resprayed half of my car in celly and its gone on great, however on closer inspection the paint has got loads of tiny black specs in it. The colour is vermillion red, so an orangey red colour.

First thought was that it was me contaminating the paint somehow, so used a new air line, new gun with a filter and also an inline filter but the problem still remains.

So today I looked at my paint stirrer and low and behold there is black specs in the dried paint on there, so it appears that the paint in the tin is already contaminated

I'm going back to my paint supplier tomorrow for a chat but not sure what to expect, I have never had this problem before. Will they say I should have filtered it again before use? But surely they should not be there in the first place.

The marks will not even cut out (like dust etc will) and seems to be one with the paint.

Any advice before I go tomorrow would be great, as were getting a bit disheartened by it all.

Cheers
Gav

[bortaf]

Not a paint expert by any stretch of the imagination but don't you pour it into the gun through a filter? i do ?
No idea if that would of caught the particals though? i wouldn't of thought so
TBH evey time i've had weird problems with paint the shop has allways blamed me or who ever was laying on

[retroandproud]

I would check all the items used for the mixing process before speaking to the suppliers. How small are the spots? Check the paint, and the thinners, plus the vessel you used to mix it to find out which one caused the problem. You should always filter paint from the mixing cup into the gun really, but it does sound like something is contaminated....
If either the paint or thinners are the culprit, try pouring some into a paper cup through a fine paint filter (120 or 150 micron) and see if that removes them. If it does, the paint suppliers will likely refuse to accept responsibility....... Sorry..

[GavinJ]

Cheers for the replies, everything I'm using is either brand new or supplied by them, right down to the mixing pots, thinners and paint. I'm not expecting any free replacement paint, I'm hoping that when I take mine in they will filter it and see if they can tell if the paints at fault, going to take the stirrer with the dried paint on to show the issue, part of me is hoping its one of "yep we know what that is" response but things are never that simple.

On closer inspection of the pot of paint I'm 99% sure I can see black specks on the inside of the can, anyway enough rambling ill post up tomorrow what the outcome is

[rodney]

i had a similer thing with some blue celly on my escrote, curse word bits in the can , i filtered it into a new container with propper paint strainers before it went in my gun and it cured the problem,.

[andyturbo2]

Hi

It sounds like it may be a tinter that has gone off, check the paint straight from the tin very carefully, you may have to brush it and let it dry on a test piece. If it is a tinter problem, although you can probably sort it by straining it carefully, don't forget that this will actually alter the colour slightly which may cause you a problem if you have to have some more mixed at any time.

Andy

[GavinJ]

Well I went today and they wasn't very interested, bit disappointed really as never had any problems in the past and I go there pretty often. They basically played the 'you should have filtered it' card which to be honest maybe i should of - but trouble is I now don't have enough of that mix left do the car.

So bit the bullet and ordered a fresh batch of paint and some filters, so going to filter the new batch just in case and do a trial section on the rear valence, he did say any prob's bring it back, so we will see...

A pic to keep this thread remotely interesting......

[GavinJ]

Just got the new paint and it looks like its a very slightly different shade, but looks like what it should be. So would this make sense that the first batch was to bright as a result of a dodgy tint? Causing the black specs, I'm assuming a dark tint such as black is used to darken..

As looking at it now the first batch was to orange, whereas the new batch is toned down and more of an orangey/red....

[dodgerover]

Its going to dry a different colour...reds and oranges always do.

[rodney]

will get lighter when mixed too,.

[hamps]

Yes you should always strain the paint but that is no excuse for it to have specs in the mix! it's clearly there fault and there would be no way I would be paying again!

They have obviously used a wanky tinter!