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Feb 27, 2014 19:26:40 GMT
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Hi, Am I the only one who didn't know there were changes happening to driving licenses this year & neaxt? Bonus question - if I send off my "old style" paper license, any chance I'll get it back or will they keep it and say I need to apply for a "new" plastic one? Quotes below from : www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/10559470/Car-insurance-premiums-will-come-down-as-Government-puts-all-driving-licence-records-online.html  Car insurance premiums will come down as Government puts all driving licence records online Wonder who will get the bill for the new & improved system this time 
I'm sure there will habve been plenty of thought put into avoiding any risk of fraud 
Individual drivers will also be able to access the new system which will be launched by the DVLA in March and will be able to check the number of points that are currently valid if they type in their licence number, national insurance number and postcode. I can't remember - do you need to give your NI number when you apply for a license, if not - how do DVLA have it?
The move to online will make the paper counterpart of a licence obsolete and will be phased out by 2015 in favour of a single, plastic photocard licence. *WHY* wasn't this done when "new" licences were brought out in '98 ish ?  Old-style paper licences, held by an estimated 10 million motorists, will be abolished shortly after. "Free" revenue to UK gov = 10 million licenses x how much for "new" licenses? Total is billions - all from drivers pockets  Pics as per RR law (car related - hope that's ok ?)  green "paper" license  ... with points (handwritten!) on the reverse   |
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Feb 27, 2014 19:59:33 GMT
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Yes paper licences are no longer issued, it has been the case for a while that if you change address/ details/ pass a test you have to get card or at least I think that might possibly be the case or has it been optional?
I don't ever remembering giving my NI number to the DVLA, would this make it easier for them to check medical history?
I always thought it strange that the counterpart was kept as it should be easy enough to chip the card with points etc.
Online with have no bearing on insurance costs. imo.
And no mention of cards having a ten year shelve life, something which has been catching a lot of drivers out.
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colnerov
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Feb 27, 2014 20:06:08 GMT
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Hi, as from 1998 paper licences sent in for any reason will prompt a form for a photocard licence and a fee of £20. I have a mate whose paper one is absolutely falling to bits but he refuses to get a new one because of this. Once you have one the photo has to be updated every 10 years and another fee. Only certain people can sign the declaration and photo to say that it is you, It looks like you need your NI number if you are applying online. - www.gov.uk/exchange-paper-driving-licence Colin P.S. beat me to it!! |
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ferny
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Feb 27, 2014 20:12:32 GMT
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Anyone who knows you but is not related can sign the photo. Just been through this with my mum as she's reached 70.
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jaswh
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Feb 27, 2014 20:21:45 GMT
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Hi, as from 1998 paper licences sent in for any reason will prompt a form for a photocard licence and a fee of £20. I have a mate whose paper one is absolutely falling to bits but he refuses to get a new one because of this. Once you have one the photo has to be updated every 10 years and another fee. Only certain people can sign the declaration and photo to say that it is you, It looks like you need your NI number if you are applying online. - www.gov.uk/exchange-paper-driving-licence Colin P.S. beat me to it!
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Feb 28, 2014 12:36:01 GMT
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Me too i'm keeping mine as long as i'm still contactable via the address on it
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Feb 28, 2014 13:29:08 GMT
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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2257383/2m-drivers-don't-know-licence-invalid-face-fines-1-000.html "A quarter of drivers are still using the old-style paper licences." "... the traditional all-paper licences... are generally valid until the holder’s 70th birthday..." "The ten-year photocard licences will become mandatory in 2015 when the paper licences are officially phased out." "More than two million motorists are unwittingly getting behind the wheel with an out-of-date driving licence that could land them with a fine of up to £1,000" It looks like a quarter of motorists still have legal "old" licenses which they can use until they are 70, with no need to pay every 10 years to renew, and no risk of it expiring without them knowing. I predict that it will make absolutely no difference to your day-to-day life and isn't really worth worrying about, and we should all just move along and get on with our lives. After 2015, they will have to pay (my guess) to swap their "old" license for "new" type and pay every 10 years to update their photo and make sure they don't fall into the same trap as 2 million other motorists and risk a fine / impounded vehicle / invalidated insurance for not renewing their photo Yes, I still have an "old type" license. No, I don't want a "new" type Another person who has no idea what they are talking about. Your Driver's License - regardless of type - is still valid until you are 70 years old. Regardless of the status of your photocard, you still have a valid Driving License, and therefore you wouldn't have your car impounded or your insurance invalidated if your Photocard expired. The DVLA may impose a Penalty Charge for not keeping your photocard up to date, but lets face it that's no different than getting a penalty charge for failing to notify a Change of Keeper or SORN. It costs a whole £20 to update a paper license to a photocard, and then another £20 every ten years to make sure your photo is reasonably up to date. Boo-fcuking-hoo. |
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Feb 28, 2014 23:56:43 GMT
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Another person who has no idea what they are talking about.  Your Driver's License - regardless of type - is still valid until you are 70 years old. Sounds right to me (at least until the old style ones are phased out - 2015?) Regardless of the status of your photocard, you still have a valid Driving License, and therefore you wouldn't have your car impounded or your insurance invalidated if your Photocard expired. Again, I agree with your thinking but read up to find out why (first on the Google list) vehicles get siezed for expired photo licenses - even users on the police forums don't always agree what's legal www.ukpoliceonline.co.uk/index.php?/topic/28954-driving-on-an-expired-photocard-licence/ |
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Car insurance premiums will come down as Government puts all driving licence records online
