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Hi all I am moving to Ireland next week and I'm taking the daily Corsa D (boo!) and my beloved, but not-by-a-long-way finished Capri with me. As I will not be returning to the UK in the foreseeable future, both vehicles are going to be exported and re-registered in the emerald isle. I have researched the import process and it goes roughly like this: vehicle arrives in Ireland make appointment with NCT testing station within 7 days to establish identity, engine capacity, number of doors etc. provide V5C etc and prove ownership get NCT certificate (Irish MOT) pay applicable import duties. apply for plates and purchase from NCT centre or local motor factors. tax and drive! All straight forwards enough if the vehicle is roadworthy . However my Capri is currently mid restoration and a long way from being roadworthy (SORN)! My question is: how do I register the vehicle if it is a non-runner and unable to get to a NCT test, let alone pass the test? Does it just become an unregistered object with 4 wheels not subject to road legislation, left like so, until such time as I can make it through an NCT? This also leads me to my other question of; RR'ers of ROI - who and where are you, and what do you drive! Any and all help will be very much appreciated! Tom Pics for penance!!
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gn3dr
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If you own the corsa for >6 months before moving back then there will be no fee payable on that for vrt (vehicle registration tax = import duty with another name) As far as I know you can only bring in one car without paying. Not 100% sure on that though - definitely check that out for sure. If you do have to pay for the Capri it would be a flat rate of 200 euro vrt as it is over 30 years old (whereas the cost would cost a minimum of 720!!. It doesn't have to actually pass the test to be vrt'd. It just needs to look relatively roadworthy. In some centres that might mean they might ask you to start it and drive it around the yard. So just make sure there are seats in it and it runs and you will be grand.
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That ties in with what I have read so far regarding the import duties. We only bought the corsa a couple of weeks ago because it's cheaper to tax and insure than the previous daily would have been post export so i'm expecting to pay 300 euros or thereabouts for that anyway.. that said, I had read on the ncts.ie website that you can apply for reduced import duty if you are moving with the car rather than just buying/selling from abroad? The big jobs on the Capri still to tackle include: make a new piece of front valance so there's something to bolt the wing to, weld up the A4 sized hole in the NSF footwell, buy and fit an exhaust and replace the core plug in the back of the cylinder head so it will hold coolant (engine out, head off or cut a hole in the bulkhead job!).
In other words, I think I will struggle to drive it to and around the NCT yard!
*edit* fwiw: I have owned the capri since 2007.
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melle
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It'll come out in the wash.
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I brought a 1988 Saab 900 with me when I moved to Ireland from Denmark three years ago. Whilst the process was pretty straightforward, there were a few nags. 1: I had to fork out €720, which I could claim back later, but it took months before I got the money back. If you claim back the VRT (which you can only do if you've owned the car for at least 6 months before moving), you cannot sell it, break it or take it off the road within the first year. This will be printed on the logbook as well. You might find you're better off buying a car that's already registered in Ireland, it will be easier to insure as well. 2: Once you get your registration details, you need NCT to get it taxed. But how do you get the car to the NCT testing station legally? I just risked it (driving there without a valid NCT is legal, driving to the test without tax isn't). 3. Brace yourself for tax and insurance, Ireland's very expensive. I have the luxury of living in the UK as well and that's where the 900 will be going after the summer, registering it in the UK should save me about €1500/ year.
Where are you moving? I'm in Dublin city centre. If you need someone with a flatbed to move cars to/ from the NCT centre around Dublin, PM me.
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gn3dr
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That ties in with what I have read so far regarding the import duties. We only bought the corsa a couple of weeks ago because it's cheaper to tax and insure than the previous daily would have been post export so i'm expecting to pay 300 euros or thereabouts for that anyway.. that said, I had read on the ncts.ie website that you can apply for reduced import duty if you are moving with the car rather than just buying/selling from abroad? The big jobs on the Capri still to tackle include: make a new piece of front valance so there's something to bolt the wing to, weld up the A4 sized hole in the NSF footwell, buy and fit an exhaust and replace the core plug in the back of the cylinder head so it will hold coolant (engine out, head off or cut a hole in the bulkhead job!). In other words, I think I will struggle to drive it to and around the NCT yard! *edit* fwiw: I have owned the capri since 2007. Well out of that list I'd get the exhaust on and the core plug in, just slap on the wing and put a carpet over the foot well hole. It will save you hassle in the long run. One thing you will discover is that official Ireland / civil service etc.is a right pain in the hole to deal with, especially for car related stuff. By the way if the Capri is pre 1980 it will be NCT exempt here.
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there s a fellow in donegal town breaks capri s he s on done deal 30 years old nct exempt 56 eoro to tax
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there s a fellow in donegal town breaks capri s he s on done deal 30 years old nct exempt 56 eoro to tax 56 euro
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I spoke to the Fonthill NCT centre (which will be my local) who advised that the vehicle cannot be registered without taking it to the station for inspection. They said that it can be in the country as an unregistered vehicle until such time as it becomes roadworthy but I'm not keen on having an unregistered car. I like to make sure I'm complying with the relevant regulations (as much as I can given the circumstances). They also gave me the number for the motor registration office so I will speak to them at lunch.
I'm guessing this is why you advised to make it roughly car shaped and slap it through the test, Gn3dr?
Melle, that sounds like an offer I may not be able to refuse! Thanks kindly!
Shielsy68, thanks for the pointer - I will bare this in mind. The wife wants to go out into the countryside exploring. it helps when you have a destination in mind!
More to come once I've spoken to the motor registration office...
Thanks again!
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There's thousands of "unregistered" cars in Ireland, I wouldn't worry. There's a surprising amount of stuff there waiting to get older, including the 840ci that I sold which is driving around Dublin on trade plates because the VRT on it is a fortune, as is the tax. As above I would also suggest buying something that is already registered in Ireland, as especially a Vauxhall will be counted as an import seeing they were sold as Opels in ROI. You may not have owned it long enough - I'm not 100% on the regulations, but you definitely can bring in for free(ish) one personal import. Don't waste that on the Capri though as over 30 year old cars are so cheap to import and tax and insure.
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melle
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It'll come out in the wash.
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Melle, that sounds like an offer I may not be able to refuse! Thanks kindly! Just to manage your expectations: I don't have a flatbed, but I know reliable people who do.
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I Had half assumed this, but either is good.. I work in accident repair as a bodyshop estimator so I'm sure there are lots of connections, willing helpers, subcontractors etc at my new place. I'm just loath to ask because I'm the new guy and haven't actually started yet! Don't wanna be a pest before I get there..
Didn't manage to speak to anyone at the motor registration office.
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