brachunky
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Gents,I have been pondering over a rechargeable impact wrench for some time and in all honesty, recognise that you get what you pay for.Snap On etc etc are just too expensive for occasional jobs and the 230v Clarke wrench I bought some time back is too heavy and cumbersome for tight spaces. After doing some research, The Worx 20v unit seems to be pretty decent and damn good value on Amazon at £200. There is a "painful" you tube video I watched which seemed positive but also wondered if you chaps had any experiences with this model or possibly the Ryobi version? www.amazon.co.uk/WORX-WX279-Cordless-Brushless-Battery/dp/B01N6KPEL2 |
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wtf, did that guy really overtorque his wheel bolts to double?
no experience of Worx stuff, got a collection of Makita tools myself, that seems to be a competitor to the DTW285.
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frodo
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I can thoroughly recommend the Kielder range!
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Pid363!
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Milwalkie are the best but not cheap. I’ve had a sealey one for about 15 years just replaced it with a Kielder one and its good for the money.
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Stupid is as stupid does!
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Milwalkie are the best but not cheap. I’ve had a sealey one for about 15 years just replaced it with a Kielder one and its good for the money. I agree on the Milwaukee stuff. Absolutely bullet proof and they'll fix it if it breaks. Expensive, but cheaper than buying 3 or 4 cheapies in the long run! I suspect on most of the cheaper ones it's the battery which dictates the life of the tool as much as anything else. |
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I'd rate the Milwaukee the best of the best but you really have to fork out a lot for it!
I've a 1/2 Dewalt 18v XR for my home use in the garage ect and I'd say it's probably the best value for money impact. About the same power but I don't think it feels the same quality the Milwaukee.
Either way there both 3 year warranty and I'm very impressed with the dewalt, take what you want from that..
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I can thoroughly recommend the Kielder range! seconded! one of the best tool I have ever bought is my Kielder impact with twin batteries, seems to get better with use too and the batteries last ages. |
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wtf, did that guy really overtorque his wheel bolts to double? . Easy to 'torque them to double' if you are using an uncalibrated wrench and extension bar. some wheel nuts are not actually that tight an you can over easily tighten them by hand. sorry no experience of battery spanners. |
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Last Edit: Feb 8, 2018 18:58:24 GMT by Deleted
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I bought a used 1/2 Snap-on 18v for £80 with knackered batteries, Bought a pair of refurbished updated batteries off eBay for £40 each so I’ve now got a £400 snap-on gun working better than new for less than £200.
I’ve also got a dewalt 3/8 gun that again I bought used which is very good for how small it is, still gets off wheel nuts etc.
All I will say about the cheaper ones is ignore their claimed torque figures. I bought a brand new ryobi gun a few years back that claimed to be around 300n/m but in reality it couldn’t even undo a wheel nut without cracking them with a breaker bar first l.
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AvE does a teardown of a Milwaukee 1/2" impact. He usually tells you where tools will fail and whether or not they're any good.
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Roach
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Not cheap but I have one of these. www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/2763-22It's an absolute beast, not cheap but I only try to buy once! Not like the time my Ryobi angle grinder that lasted 1 session on my inner wing underseal...... Ryobi are rubbish... But they taught me a valuable lesson! |
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pavel
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I've got a Clarke 230V jobbie for serious stuff, and a Bosch 18v GDS impact wrench for smaller stuff - it won't touch a hub nut for instance, but great for suspension stuff.
I was tempted to get the Dewalt instead of the Clarke (I already had the Bosch and needed something meatier) but it wasn't in stock and I needed it same day.
I'd also recommend you consider what other tools you'll have - I've got DeWalt nailguns and Bosch 18V drills, so I could buy the bare tools without worrying about the battery and charger....
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dazaaa
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I frequent electronics recyclers a few times a week and see huge quantities of tools that have been thrown away. Milwaukee stuff does break, albeit very rarely as I only ever see a handful of their stuff in a year and it's usually something obvious like serious impact damage thats ruined the tool. In contrast Makita and Dewalt gear is being binned on a big scale, can easily see 30/40 (usually lion battery models) a week. The b&q type stuff must be awful as loads of nearly new, boxed (and usually working) bits come in constantly, same with the green coloured bosch, less so with the professional blue bosch stuff.
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would imagine you see a fair bit of Makita as its probably the widest used (and abused) kit in the construction industry (along with dewalt)
many of these brands have gone downhill in a big way fairly recently, if you watch a few of AvE's videos you'll find which ones are owned by which conglomerates and which are just a name with no semblance of identity existing from the original brand.
I'd also wager that most of it is perfectly serviceable but most tradies can't be arsed and just buy a new body to go with their collection of batteries.
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Last Edit: Feb 9, 2018 14:18:46 GMT by welshpug
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I really rate my DeWalt 1/2in battery gun. In the real world it will do up to about 350Nm which is plenty. The only thing I ever found that I disliked was how long in the body it was but you can ignore that as they now make a stubby version which is great for getting suspension undone inside the confines of the wheel house!
Batteries last ages and charge from empty to full in around 2 hours.
Cost me about 300 quid ex demo from the mac man iirc..
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Another vote for keilder stuff.
If u need it for heavy,day to day,garage use, its probably not upto the job, but they're cheap to buy, 180quid all for 1/2 inch drive gun and will undo and do up most jobs given the chance.
Its not snap on/milwakee ability, but its nowhere near the price.
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ChasR
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Makita's DTW1002z is brilliant. It's not cheap but it will make wheel change for instance much easier.
I spent £160 on Kielder's wrench. I'll be honest, it doesn't do what I want it to. Wheelnuts always require me to use a breaker bar to remove them. Rusted bolts it will not touch unless they are smallish. However, it does speed things up alot, the charge holds for ages, and it is relatively light. For that reason I think it's a great bit of kit.
If I knew what I did now my money would be going towards the aforementioned Makita or the equivalent Milwaukee. Yes, they are expensive, but you are like me and you do alot of jobs yourself they will pay for themselves quite quickly.
As an example I suspect I've saved £1.6k for me doing work on the M3 myself. While I'm not saying that's my tool budget it certainly justifies me spending it at times, especially when my time is becoming more limited.
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I borrowed a mate’s 400 quid snap-on 3/8” and it was good, but pricey.
Went down to LIdl and spent 50 quid on their own one. 1/2”, and not instant torque but incremental build up for less chance of snapping bolts. Comes with a cigarette lighter adapter along with the normal battery - cut off and crocodile clips and a diesel battery, sorted!
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would imagine you see a fair bit of Makita as its probably the widest used (and abused) kit in the construction industry (along with dewalt) I'd also wager that most of it is perfectly serviceable but most tradies can't be arsed and just buy a new body to go with their collection of batteries. This 100% I'm guilty of it on occasion I need something that works there and then not once I've got the parts ordered in. I have however made myself popular by fixing plenty of other peoples tools on site and grabbed quite a few good ones out of the skip that required minor fixing. I frequent electronics recyclers a few times a week and see huge quantities of tools that have been thrown away. Milwaukee stuff does break, albeit very rarely as I only ever see a handful of their stuff in a year and it's usually something obvious like serious impact damage thats ruined the tool. In contrast Makita and Dewalt gear is being binned on a big scale, can easily see 30/40 (usually lion battery models) a week. The b&q type stuff must be awful as loads of nearly new, boxed (and usually working) bits come in constantly, same with the green coloured bosch, less so with the professional blue bosch stuff. I would be happy to re home any Lipo dewalt gear that's not been dropped off a roof! Do they sell on? |
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slater
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I've got bosch stuff. You can pickup one of thier mid sized impact bodies for not much more than 100 quid. I also have bosch drill, grinder etc and use them with wireless batteries so you never have to worry about charging much and only need one battery per tool so for 150-200 you have a decent gun.. Maybe that's too much outlay for you but in the long run it actually works out much cheaper than buying mixed brands of cheap tools all with different batteries/chargers and questionable quality etc.
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