wheel bolts ?

[126picky]

hello there I want to put some cinq alloys onto my fiat 126 .

and iam told on the fiat 126 forum, I can use my standard 126 wheel bolts . and that a bloke gets 4.5 turns and his bolt is fully spent ie: does not tighten anymore .. as happens when I tried a alloy on my car .

and he states he has driven his car like a nutter and never had a wheel fall off and he feels safe .

does anyone else consider 4.5 turns of bolt and nomore as sounding safe ?

I'm only asking as I had a wheel come off on my mini when I was younger . lucky noone helped and was totally my fault due to swopping a flat tyre and not doing nuts up proper .


I know the 126 is different as you have wheel bolts and not nuts .

anyone help please?

thanks in advance

also any devices out there, like thread lock or some device to warn me of whell bolt moving as id hate for even one or potentially 4 to fall off? could kill myself and others and wouldnt be good

[JohnnySomersett]

Doesn't sound enough to me... but if it's PROPERLY seated then thats a different matter.

Just remember to check the tapers

Edit (again):

Remember, the thread on a bolt is whats called 'parallel' as opposed to 'tapered'... this means that it doesnt change along its length. 2 turns is no different to 10 turns for strength... just how much room for error/time to notice if one is working loose.

I check my wheel nuts every fortnight - its a good habit to get into

[rusty998]

i cant help you with the advice you need but i know a man that can, his name is Steve and he own's a shop called Speed Shack, have a look for it on google and give him a call, he know's his nut's ;D

[126picky]

i wll google see what i can work out ..

ive edited my original post as i meant to say i only get 4.5 turns and the bolt is spent . ie: wont tighten anymore ??

i will try and locate this steve bloke

anyone else got any advice or help please

thanks

richard

[Robinxr4i]

Not sure, although 4.5 turns sounds like very little to me!

Jan 3, 2010 21:37:43 GMT 126picky said:

or some device to warn me of whell bolt moving as id hate for even one or potentially 4 to fall off? could kill myself and others and wouldnt be good

HGV style???

[RobinJI]

A good way of telling if bolts are coming loose is just to draw a small line in tip-ex down the side of the bolt and onto the wheel face, in a continuous line. That way if the bolt moves, the line on the wheel and the line on the bolt don't line up.

I know that for an M12x1.5mm bolt the recommended amount is 7 turns, its slightly less for an M14 though.

[screech]

look for somthing called "sentry seal" or "inspectors laqcure"

[stealthstylz]

You wnt about a cm of thread going into the hub imo.

Matt

[jo0lz]

I have fitted X1/9 alloys to our Fiat Uno

I did not consider it safe with the original Uno bolts
As I could feel we had too few turns before the tapers hit the steel inserts in those alloys
So I used the longer X1/9 bolts to be sure I got enough turns and purchase to torque the bolts up correctly
Back in August/Sept the car went from Liverpool to Lisbon and back with no problems at all
Personally would strongly suggest you invest in longer bolts
Jo0lz