1989 SKoda 130 RS (Project Skud Missile)

[Saskatoon]

Getting the Skoda Estelle back out of mothballs Putting the Alfasud away for a while.

Ratt the Alfasud has taken quite a bit of punishment over last few months being my daily driver and I fear she will have to be resprayed again later in the year. Ratt did make it into this Months mag at Ace cafe.



I just had a 1700cc 8v engine from a low mileage Sprint put in Ratt - so he goes like a stabbed rat now. got open twin 40's on volocity sacks and sounds awsome. Shame to put away - but too many cars on drive.


Had a bit of a change of mind for the Skoda. She has been laid up in my brother's garage for the past 6 months and we were intending to put a VW Polo Gti twincam hung out the back with CBR600 carbs and megajolt ignition. I have nearly deceided in my mind on a Subaru lunp maybe with turbo?

I am scrapping my Octavia VRS at the moment so will be taking the seats out to go in the 120.

[Mr Squidian]

LIKE ! this sounds like its going to be awesome!!

[Saskatoon]

The Skoda already has competition suspension and is a fairly straight car. The interior is standard but going to look really trick with full Octavia seats and centre console. I am goint o do a seriously powerful I.c.e with all that space under the bonnet would be a crime not to.




I have found my Nintendo N.E.S oldschool and about 10 games. I will incorporate this sytem somewhere in the car on a power inverter for proper retro gaming

[Saskatoon]

Got car back outside my house now. Removed the fungus steering wheel cover and stuck the sud back in the garage. Can't wait to get started in next few days on the Skoda starting with the interior to free up space in the garage that is very tight. Going to start by cutting the centre bracket from the Octavia and welding it into the Estelle floor. Then carefully cutting the seat side catches from the Octavia if they can be and spot welding them into 120.. The fronts will have to be broken down and welded straight to the frames as they sit quite high up on two rails. will put pictures on when I have done this. Also need to replace the manky headlining.

Most importantly putting my new Retro Rides sticker in the window tomorrow

[Saskatoon]

Put the all important RR aticker in the front window and yes I know the tax disc is out of date - that was the last time car was on road.

Just noticed the speedo is reading only 37k miles - must be genuine according to old MOT's - thats fan-blooming -tastic!
1989 new 0 miles
<1995 = 5064 miles
1996 = 7400 miles
1997 = 17189 miles
first period off raod
2003 = 25347 miles
2004 = 28329 miles
another couple of years off road
2006 = 31779 miles
2007 = 34062 miles
2008 = 36932 miles
Another couple of year off road until I took it on from a dry lockup
2010 = bought it for an embarrassing and silly amount of money.
2011 = 37012 miles

[Saskatoon]

Just mocked up the rear seats from the Octavia...

They were made for this car they fit perfectly! Horray! Will get the welder out and sort the pesky brackets to hold it all safely in place.













Get the fronts done in one sitting when I have my welding kit here during the weekend - then will show all.

[Chris™]

Ooh they look really smart in there ;D Will be following this project, keep the updates coming

[ims]

by eck they're posh for an old skud what box are you going to run with a scooby lump as the standard skud box will shat itself! did you actually manage to mount up the 16v?

[surprisingskoda]

Have you checked the height for the Octavia seats in the front yet? They're going to run awfully close to the roof unless you do something with he squab or the high brackets - Estelle seats sit way up off the floor.

When you got the car did it come with the Felicia engine that was previously fitted?

[Saskatoon]

Going to split the original seats from the runners and likewise going to split the Octavia seats from their runners and weld the frames of the Octavia seats directly to the runners of the Estelle. I acknowledge the Estelle seats sit upon a box section that runs across the car . Sure it will be fine.

Yes I did get the Estelle gearbox coupled to the 16v twincam - but it presented many problems including clearance of the ignition housing at back of the cam covers. It meant cutting through the rear bulkhead which was not my favourite idea of my brothers. Also the ignition itself was a head ache in my mind - my brother was going to put a megajolt system with a ford trigger? Also manufacturing a custom alternator mounting point and getting a relevant belt system was a bit of a chore in my mind. You can see from the picture below the rear mounting/strengthening beam is far to close to the engine. The alternator original mounting place is to the bottom and right hand side of the engine touching the beam. Also might of had to cut the beam and reweld it into a silightly different shap to accomodate this engines mounts and then fabricate a mount.


The final headache was the way the engine sits at an angle - which creates more problems in oil pressure and surges - we might have put a felica sump and with baffles and we had a new adapter plate made to sit the engine up right - but the holes to be cut in the bulkhead were bigger and not keen. Bother gave the engine away to his mate which resolved all these issues.










The other problem was the spigot bearing where the main shaft entered the engine. I was reliably informed copper grease would do the trick rather than a bronze washer bearing? I was not that confident. The engine would however just simpliy use an estelle clutch and original polo flywheel.

I didn't share my brother slapdash way of over complicating things with bike carbs from a Honda CBR 600 if the truth be known. I would have ran with the electronic setup and satisfied with 100BHP in a car that weighs as much as tracing paper. The car was supremely fast with a 68bhp (he quoted) Felicia MPi lump with fast road cams on twin sidedraft webbers. I would have loved to have kept that engine - but owner kept engine for his Skoda 120GL project and sold offending shell to me.

As for the gearbox? I am only assuming the gear box is a VW sourced unit from a campervan/beetle so should be fine up to a point but may have to get a dif sorted or an uprated camper box. Only planning on a 2.0l non-turbo Subaru lump or an older 1.8 from the older pickups. I might even condier an Alfa Sprint 1700cc on twin 40 Dels the same engine in my sud. I can't rule that out. Kennedy Engineering sell both Subaru and Alfa flatfour adapterkits for around $400 which is a tad over £280 - so will keep a tight check on the costings for this car.

I am goin to get on with the interior and painting the car before the engine comes about - especially so that I can get engine bay painted before it goes in, so I don't have to mess around taking it back out. This car will probably take upto a year from now to get right.

[Saskatoon]

Feb 26, 2011 17:50:44 GMT surprisingskoda said:

Have you checked the height for the Octavia seats in the front yet? They're going to run awfully close to the roof unless you do something with he squab or the high brackets - Estelle seats sit way up off the floor.

When you got the car did it come with the Felicia engine that was previously fitted?

No that engine was bluprinted and was and had fast road cams and lovely peco exhaust. He wanted £1500 for the engine and £20 for the car.

Was a featured magazine car in Practical Classics in Jan 2007 so this car has a history behind it and is a well known car on the Skoda and Retro circuit.

www.ppcmag.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2861

[miilor]

You can use a gearbox for renault 5 gtl, has 5 speeds, or rather a renault 5 alpine, and super5 gt turbo engine, you need nothing but everything fits perfectly ;D

[Saskatoon]

The drive is wrong way around tho? From memory the Renault box sits beside the engine which is transverse? how would that go?

[qwerty]

I think miilor means the Mk1 Renault 5 which used a transaxle.

[Saskatoon]

Still think the engines were transverse and not transaxle type - I probably could be proved wrong.

I was offerred a 1700 16v boxer engine one of the last Alfa boxers before they went over to the dark side and using twin spark lumps. I could get the whole engine setup for £50 so might go with this and swap electronics for carbs. You can also detail these engine to look really sick.

[Saskatoon]

Just measured the seats. Once the Octavia front seats are taken off the bases they measure 33 inches approx and the Estelle seats measure the same so should be a good swap. Just sat in the Estelle front just now and was thinking to myself how confy they are! Just eyed up a place for the Alpine head unit I have for car with an under dash bracket. Might make a centre console for it? It will also hold a 10.7 inch mini lcd tv/dvd/monitor for the nintendo NES and that could sit in the centre console to.

I think I have done the deal for the boxer engine complete for £50 with Ricky from the Alfa Owner forum. They produce around 155bhp and stacks of torque so should not rip the box to peices like a Subaru one would. I was offerred a twin turbo Scooby that has been smashed up for £700 today but was looking for a non turbo glx type motor.

[miilor]

2 types of renault5:
1 - renault 5, line engine, gearbox, engine, engine next to your feet, so if you put the gearbox and engine behind you, the car goes forward, ok?, I have a fiat 600 with box and nissan renault 5 cg13 engine micra
2-renautl super 5, transverse engine

[Saskatoon]

I have split the seat frames down for all the seats today - not that interesting but progress none the less. Brother in law is coming around tomorrow to weigh up installing the Octavia seats on Estelle front frames. Looked at the Octavia seats up close. Seem they are nearly pressed together completely and nothing that can be undone. Will have to cut most of the bottoms off with a grinder or power saw.

[Saskatoon]

Going to get the welder out this weekend to sort them pesky seats out - Been ultra busy in the last couple of months. Then will get the whole car painted - then sort engine out. Crazy Dave strikes again.

[Saskatoon]