SORN - no need to renew from 16-12-2013

[bstardchild]

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www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/miscellaneous/2013-12/no-need-to-renew-sorn-from-16-12-2013/

Funny I've got a renewal for a a SORN due end Dec..... Do I or don't I???

[surprisingskoda]

This is of some significance too:

Additionally, registered keepers will no longer need to have their insurance certificates checked when re-taxing a vehicle.

The changes to insurance checks have been made possible because DVLA regularly checks existing databases for insurance under Continuous Insurance Enforcement rules. DVLA's records are compared regularly with the Motor Insurance Database to identify registered keepers of vehicles that have no insurance.

I wonder where they're going with that one...

[welshpug]

Basically if they scan the renewal form or v5c and computer says no then you cannot tax it.

Obviously if you gave trade ins that covers it without putting the reg on the database then they would need to see docs.

[rob0r]

Wow, a common sense win. I've got circa 25-30 cars on sorn so this is definitely a good move, I think I've been fined around £200 over the years...

[vr4-rob]

Dec 11, 2013 14:07:02 GMT rob0r said:

Wow, a common sense win. I've got circa 25-30 cars on sorn so this is definitely a good move, I think I've been fined around £200 over the years...

It's a pain in the rear renewing them all the time. Normally I get about 15 ish come through in one envelope as there all due round the same time. Then the rest come through every month one by one.

The joys of owning loads of cars
The sickening factor with a lot of mine is that half of them are mot'd but I can't afford to tax/insure them all at once

[optima21]

we've gone round full circle, I got my Herald in 1997 and its been SORN'D ever since it was introduced in 1998, it hasnt moved since it was parked up in June 1997. years ago before the internet I used to hate having to queue up at the post office at the end of December to SORN it. the irony being that if the car was drivable it would have been tax free (due to age) but I'd risk a fine if it wasn't SORN'd.

[omega]

so suppose someone forgot to sorn a car a few years ago then moved address a few times but never bothered to change the address on the log book if they register the car now will they be still liabel and get a fine?

[welshpug]

Good chance they will indeed if the dvla or their appointed chasers haven't caught up with you yet

(yes they did send me something to my present address even though the car wasn't yet registered there, bastards)

[mattfletcher]

The DVLA have gone to pot. Last year I put a private plate on my car, when I re-moted it, they sent me a letter a couple of weeks later saying there's a discrepancy with the chassis number when MOTed. So I checked the MOT certificate and checked the chassis number. Baffled that they matched up, I suddenly thought I'll check the V5. Low and behold there was a number missing from the chassis number. Wrote back giving them a round of what for, as just the previous month they had returned another V5 to me with a number plate change and spelt my Surname wrong. Reguarding the fact alot of their information is "lawful", I was quite appalled of so many mistakes especially as the only information that they had to change were registration marks

[matttt3222]

But if you buy a car/bike on sorn do you still have to re sorn it like you do now.?

[bstardchild]

Dec 11, 2013 23:00:55 GMT matttt3222 said:

But if you buy a car/bike on sorn do you still have to re sorn it like you do now.?

Yes but only once unless retaxef

[bstardchild]

Checked the vehicle that I got a renewal for earlier this month and it now states SORN in place..

Earlier this month it said sorn due to expire

[Mystery Machine]

Me too, I'd completely forgotten about the new continuous SORN and received a reminder this morning. Went to SORN it using the number on the reminder and it kept telling me to enter the right number. I then tried it manually with the reg number and ref. number from the V5 and it said my vehicle details weren't recognised.

It was only when I phoned up, frustrated that I couldn't do it online, that the automated message told me about the continuous SORN. I checked in the vehicle details and, as you say Ian, 'SORN in place' was written in the tax status box. Hoorah!

[bstardchild]

Dec 16, 2013 13:28:22 GMT Mystery Machine said:

Me too, I'd completely forgotten about the new continuous SORN and received a reminder this morning. Went to SORN it using the number on the reminder and it kept telling me to enter the right number. I then tried it manually with the reg number and ref. number from the V5 and it said my vehicle details weren't recognised.

It was only when I phoned up, frustrated that I couldn't do it online, that the automated message told me about the continuous SORN. I checked in the vehicle details and, as you say Ian, 'SORN in place' was written in the tax status box. Hoorah!

Annoyingly the SORN is for a vehicle that doesn't exist any more!!!

Modern log book stops me scrapping it myself

[hairymel]

Modern log book stops me scrapping it myself

if you write to dvla telling them you have scrapped the vehicle yourself they should send a letter back confirming its removal from their database

[trouble]

Dec 17, 2013 20:17:30 GMT bstardchild said:

Dec 16, 2013 13:28:22 GMT Mystery Machine said:

Me too, I'd completely forgotten about the new continuous SORN and received a reminder this morning. Went to SORN it using the number on the reminder and it kept telling me to enter the right number. I then tried it manually with the reg number and ref. number from the V5 and it said my vehicle details weren't recognised.

It was only when I phoned up, frustrated that I couldn't do it online, that the automated message told me about the continuous SORN. I checked in the vehicle details and, as you say Ian, 'SORN in place' was written in the tax status box. Hoorah!

Annoyingly the SORN is for a vehicle that doesn't exist any more!!!

Modern log book stops me scrapping it myself

Get the log book

on the new keeper bit, write SCRAPPED over it in big letters

Stick it in the post

Job done

Have been doing this without issue for years

[bstardchild]

Dec 19, 2013 9:25:58 GMT trouble said:

Dec 17, 2013 20:17:30 GMT bstardchild said:

Annoyingly the SORN is for a vehicle that doesn't exist any more!!!

Modern log book stops me scrapping it myself

Get the log book

on the new keeper bit, write SCRAPPED over it in big letters

Stick it in the post

Job done

Have been doing this without issue for years

Hmmmm Log book...............

[hairymel]

Dec 18, 2013 0:54:50 GMT hairymel said:

if you write to dvla (enclosing the reminder letter) telling them you have scrapped the vehicle yourself they should send a letter back confirming its removal from their database

[Copey]

just tried to SORN my Capper online, ref number on the reminder came up with errors, tried off the log book and it says the car is already on SORN

so looks like this is now in effect?

[dbdb]

I'm glad I saw this thread. I didn't know about the rule changes, but had noticed that my car is now, "SORN in place". I was wondering what that meant.

David