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I was sailing off of India and had a dream. A dream of an enormous windscreen, thin A-pillars, triangular french 1980s styling and the smell of hot gear oil. It had come to me. I needed a Mk1 Renault Master. But why, why was I having this dream? Well, I have a Citroen 2cv that is transformed into a launch control equipped Rotrex supercharged BMW motorcycle flat twin engined sports libre hillclimb car... see the build on the forum here. My times on the hills were stagnating. As it is road legal I drive it to events but I always have that niggling thought in the back of my head "I need to drive this home tonight"... there was still scope for much more commitment, speed and mechanical savagery but I had been backing off... what I needed was a French, 1980s styled, Race Transporter to get us home every time, despite how Green Car may end his runs that day.. A quick search of google turned me on to a Classic Renault Sport forum and Paul who owned a company called Diamond Performance, he'd got hold of a relatively non rusty Mk1 Master and spent some time during Lockdown 1 with his sons rebuilding the flatbed/beavertail to take his Clio track car... Apparently the old flatbed deck in the background was literally held on with just a few screws... eek. After an inordinate amount of child labour it was time for a blow over of the cab in Renault commercial diamond white. Getting in touch with him with the thought that he may have looked at some others (in his search in early 2020) and then letting him know what I would be using it for, I was pleasantly surprised to hear him say, keep in touch... my sons in the last year have both got to driving age and now both have track cars too, so we now need a lorry and the flatbed will be up for sale soon... Right place, right time. Getting home from a hellishly long trip offshore of India and awaking the 2cv from it's 2 year slumber and mechanical rebuild saw it got it's MOT first go despite the cursing of the tester trying to get it onto the ramp (great lows), we raced at Werrington Park speed hillclimb and the same thought kept me from embarrassing a 911 even more than we had already. Getting back in touch with Paul and the deal was on, and with it being put to use for Green Car he wanted to sell it for what it had cost him - relative peanuts. Having a great day out bashing around Exmoor in my daily, the UMM Alter II, I left it at the misses' in North Devon and caught a train spending a few hours avoiding covid on my way up to Derby. Paul met me in his Merc and we chatted about all things race car on the way back to Diamond Hq before switching to everything about Renault Master Mk1s, he had had a few and their larger B series cousins and was pretty knowledgeable and very honest about this one. A few exceedingly noisy hours south and I stopped for snacks at Hopwood Services and to visually appraise what I had just done.. Great success. Visually.
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1987 Supercharged BMW R1150 Citroen 2cv Hillclimb Monster 1995 Renault Master Mk1 Race Transporter 1994 Mazda MX5 Mk1 / NA Road Going Class Hillclimber 1991 UMM Alter II Crew Cab OM606 SuperTurbo Diesel MegaUMM Overlander 1992 UMM Alter II Station Wagon 1980 UMM Cournil - survivor - resto project 1979 Lomax 224 2014 VW T5.1 Transporter Kombi Highline
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Looks to be the perfect haul truck for your other french fancy. Need a picture of the 2cv on the back at your earliest convenience please. Great purchase.
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Upsides:
- you look like a baller - it has the rear on air already - load bed structure well made, well supported and finished with 5mm aluminium - relatively non rusty
Downsides:
- weeping gearbox oil out of both the driveshaft to gearbox seals - the gearbox is superb for low down torque but is revving it's nuts off by 60mph - the speedo is wildly optimistic reading 10-15mph faster at 50mph - it is noisy, very noisy, a loud resonance rather than huge mechanical noise - the non standard drivers seat is so far forwards to the wheel I am driving with legs wedged either side and arms over the top - missing trim pieces in the cab & broken clock - washers don't work - torn floor mat - no side lockers - poverty water temp and voltage gauges fitted - the winch operating cable is only half the length of the bed - the winch is using fibre instead of wire which is excellent, but there is too much on the drum and it jams when the car is almost all the way onboard - possible rear deck interference with the shock mounts and exhaust when loading the low 2cv - doesn't look as fly as it could do if it had streamlined sides under the bed - no banded steels - no lows
To clarify, Paul was very honest and I knew about all of these things before I travelled up and handed over the cash.
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1987 Supercharged BMW R1150 Citroen 2cv Hillclimb Monster 1995 Renault Master Mk1 Race Transporter 1994 Mazda MX5 Mk1 / NA Road Going Class Hillclimber 1991 UMM Alter II Crew Cab OM606 SuperTurbo Diesel MegaUMM Overlander 1992 UMM Alter II Station Wagon 1980 UMM Cournil - survivor - resto project 1979 Lomax 224 2014 VW T5.1 Transporter Kombi Highline
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stealthstylz
Club Retro Rides Member
Posts: 14,950
Club RR Member Number: 174
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Wonder if a G9U out of a later Trafic would go in. Would haul well then, they're a stonking engine.
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Awesome project. I was expecting it to be 80's era with that styling. Quite surprised to see a 90's plate on it. Great starting base vehicle though.
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Nice truck. Used to drive a lot of these, and their baby brother, the Trafic, when I worked at a Renault dealership many moons ago. Bit of a tidy and in should suit you very nicely. Oh, and another one for loaded pics too, please.
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Awesome project. I was expecting it to be 80's era with that styling. Quite surprised to see a 90's plate on it. Great starting base vehicle though. Built from 1980 and finished production right up at 1997 amazingly! I'd like to get the early front grille, amber indicators and then put a plate on it.
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1987 Supercharged BMW R1150 Citroen 2cv Hillclimb Monster 1995 Renault Master Mk1 Race Transporter 1994 Mazda MX5 Mk1 / NA Road Going Class Hillclimber 1991 UMM Alter II Crew Cab OM606 SuperTurbo Diesel MegaUMM Overlander 1992 UMM Alter II Station Wagon 1980 UMM Cournil - survivor - resto project 1979 Lomax 224 2014 VW T5.1 Transporter Kombi Highline
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Rolling back into North Devon that evening I loaded up with the UMM that I had left at Alices and set off back for South Devon and the Super Secret Shore Base. She said it was the happiest she'd ever seen me. I ran him flat out, pedal to the floor for a 2 mile run up on the dual carriageway coming up for Telegraph Hill just south of Exeter, 2 lanes to 4 lanes and I need to be in lane 3. Indicate and pull across.. a mile of steep incline and we changed down to 2nd by 1/2 way up, finally settling at 30mph on the crawl over the top, not as bad as I was expecting to be honest. At lower speeds it was just happy pulling, geared well in that respect. The next day at the SSSB.. And the next day collecting 4m steel sections to get ready to build the side lockers for it..
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1987 Supercharged BMW R1150 Citroen 2cv Hillclimb Monster 1995 Renault Master Mk1 Race Transporter 1994 Mazda MX5 Mk1 / NA Road Going Class Hillclimber 1991 UMM Alter II Crew Cab OM606 SuperTurbo Diesel MegaUMM Overlander 1992 UMM Alter II Station Wagon 1980 UMM Cournil - survivor - resto project 1979 Lomax 224 2014 VW T5.1 Transporter Kombi Highline
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And then... mid week... another one came along...
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1987 Supercharged BMW R1150 Citroen 2cv Hillclimb Monster 1995 Renault Master Mk1 Race Transporter 1994 Mazda MX5 Mk1 / NA Road Going Class Hillclimber 1991 UMM Alter II Crew Cab OM606 SuperTurbo Diesel MegaUMM Overlander 1992 UMM Alter II Station Wagon 1980 UMM Cournil - survivor - resto project 1979 Lomax 224 2014 VW T5.1 Transporter Kombi Highline
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jamesd1972
Club Retro Rides Member
Posts: 2,917
Club RR Member Number: 40
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This is heading in the expected direction ! How are you on weights for this - don't suspect the mega UMM would be legal but unladen can't be too bad with the light bed on the back. James
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This is heading in the expected direction ! How are you on weights for this - don't suspect the mega UMM would be legal but unladen can't be too bad with the light bed on the back. James From all the googling on weights I believe it to be - quite madly - around 1300kgs.. I can almost believe that with the thin structure of the 1980s cab design BUT I do need to verify this for myself on a weigh bridge, a task at the top of the to do list.
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1987 Supercharged BMW R1150 Citroen 2cv Hillclimb Monster 1995 Renault Master Mk1 Race Transporter 1994 Mazda MX5 Mk1 / NA Road Going Class Hillclimber 1991 UMM Alter II Crew Cab OM606 SuperTurbo Diesel MegaUMM Overlander 1992 UMM Alter II Station Wagon 1980 UMM Cournil - survivor - resto project 1979 Lomax 224 2014 VW T5.1 Transporter Kombi Highline
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tom13
Part of things
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This is a great thread already but I can see it just getting better and better. The UMM is fantastic as well. You have some phenomenal vehicles.
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75swb
Beta Tester
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Jun 29, 2021 10:14:51 GMT
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Love it, as with all your projects. Can't wait to see how it evolves, and hopefully you're back on shore for a while now?
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Jun 29, 2021 12:13:44 GMT
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Nice find, looks pretty useful! If it were mine I think I would like a bit more protection between the load and cab though
Keep an eye out for spare headlights if its anything like the later model you cant get them anymore
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Jun 29, 2021 22:53:56 GMT
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1987 Supercharged BMW R1150 Citroen 2cv Hillclimb Monster 1995 Renault Master Mk1 Race Transporter 1994 Mazda MX5 Mk1 / NA Road Going Class Hillclimber 1991 UMM Alter II Crew Cab OM606 SuperTurbo Diesel MegaUMM Overlander 1992 UMM Alter II Station Wagon 1980 UMM Cournil - survivor - resto project 1979 Lomax 224 2014 VW T5.1 Transporter Kombi Highline
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Jun 29, 2021 23:08:26 GMT
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This is a great thread already but I can see it just getting better and better. The UMM is fantastic as well. You have some phenomenal vehicles. Thanks Tom, I really appreciate that. I enjoy tinkering with them in my time off.
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1987 Supercharged BMW R1150 Citroen 2cv Hillclimb Monster 1995 Renault Master Mk1 Race Transporter 1994 Mazda MX5 Mk1 / NA Road Going Class Hillclimber 1991 UMM Alter II Crew Cab OM606 SuperTurbo Diesel MegaUMM Overlander 1992 UMM Alter II Station Wagon 1980 UMM Cournil - survivor - resto project 1979 Lomax 224 2014 VW T5.1 Transporter Kombi Highline
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Jun 29, 2021 23:10:29 GMT
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Love it, as with all your projects. Can't wait to see how it evolves, and hopefully you're back on shore for a while now? Thanks 75swb. It will hopefully evolve a little. Some bits back to standard and others to be more useful. The main thing is to try and keep it looking like it could have come out of the Renault factory like this but be really useful to me with some upgrades too... Hopefully back until RR at Shelsley now..
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1987 Supercharged BMW R1150 Citroen 2cv Hillclimb Monster 1995 Renault Master Mk1 Race Transporter 1994 Mazda MX5 Mk1 / NA Road Going Class Hillclimber 1991 UMM Alter II Crew Cab OM606 SuperTurbo Diesel MegaUMM Overlander 1992 UMM Alter II Station Wagon 1980 UMM Cournil - survivor - resto project 1979 Lomax 224 2014 VW T5.1 Transporter Kombi Highline
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Jun 29, 2021 23:12:33 GMT
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Nice find, looks pretty useful! If it were mine I think I would like a bit more protection between the load and cab though Keep an eye out for spare headlights if its anything like the later model you cant get them anymore Yes already lined up another scrap truck to go and liberate parts from.. and a set of rear wings for a plan I have... I'm pretty confident in my strapping down and the tie downs themselves but there will be roll hoops added over the rear out of 2mm thick 38mm diameter tubing so I can have a canvas covered load bed. At the front of this will be a tyre carrying structure so that should strengthen up all of that area too!
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1987 Supercharged BMW R1150 Citroen 2cv Hillclimb Monster 1995 Renault Master Mk1 Race Transporter 1994 Mazda MX5 Mk1 / NA Road Going Class Hillclimber 1991 UMM Alter II Crew Cab OM606 SuperTurbo Diesel MegaUMM Overlander 1992 UMM Alter II Station Wagon 1980 UMM Cournil - survivor - resto project 1979 Lomax 224 2014 VW T5.1 Transporter Kombi Highline
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Jun 29, 2021 23:32:24 GMT
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So how about loading the 2cv on flat ground... Step 1, let all the air out of the rear bags.. Step 2, add sand ladders and crucial blocks of wood to stop shock mounts digging into the bed at the ramp angle change where it goes from ramp to flat. Step 3, start winching in - this is how close the bumper gets at the front before the tyres start drawing up the ramps.. and the same at the rear... Step 4, strap down then load car with racing gear and liquimoly swag to give out at Goodwood Retro Rides. And arriving at Goodwood after it's first long run loaded with the 2cv. It was a 6 hour drive for me to get there as I drove to Tiverton to pick up Alice then up the A303, we stopped at Winchester at 3pm to pick up a coat she had left at a friends there before getting stuck in school traffic trying to make our way out onto the M23.. at this point in the middle of traffic in the middle of Winchester I realise that A. the radiator fans aren't working and it is the hottest day of the year so far, B. the clutch is going. We whacked up the heater in the cab to maximum heat and maximum on, wound down the windows and melted into a sweaty puddle in our seats as I changed gear matching revs with limited clutch from there until 30 mins the other side of Goodwood where my folks and grandparents are based. The next day checking the clutch I found that the adjuster nuts on the cable had wound themselves right out so that was an easy fix before we headed off to Goodwood! The rad fans though I will have to delve further into the sensors and wiring, there should be two speed settings that they should automatically come on to at certain temps, once moving or with the cab heater on though there was no problem. The 2.5 NA diesel is a torque monster but again the 'box isn't setup for speed, I do know that changing to a turbo model box would help in this respect and I think I have found one en-route to Shelsley so may look to pick that up on the way to Retro Rides in late August. At the moment I am just topping up the leaky gearbox and putting cardboard under it when I leave it in the warehouse or stopping over anywhere. The great thing about this truck though is that 2.5 NA diesel, it is 10,000 miles old after either a new engine or a complete and very good rebuild (I can't tell) and it is very sweet, uses zero oil and although it would be nice to have more power I don't think I want to pull it all apart.. not right now anyway.. Right now I am trying to find out a little more history on the truck, nothing came with it bar the current V5 and MOT but I am lead to believe it was originally used on Heathrow for 200,000 of it's 223,000 mile life. If it was kept in a hanger etc then this makes sense for its relatively great condition, and how it has been looked after so well mechanically. I think the blue and silver paint scheme may tie in to this theory too.. can I check out the history of where it has been somehow? Also I'd love some original dealer plates to be reproduced for it - so how would I find out who sold it?
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1987 Supercharged BMW R1150 Citroen 2cv Hillclimb Monster 1995 Renault Master Mk1 Race Transporter 1994 Mazda MX5 Mk1 / NA Road Going Class Hillclimber 1991 UMM Alter II Crew Cab OM606 SuperTurbo Diesel MegaUMM Overlander 1992 UMM Alter II Station Wagon 1980 UMM Cournil - survivor - resto project 1979 Lomax 224 2014 VW T5.1 Transporter Kombi Highline
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Jun 30, 2021 22:44:02 GMT
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1987 Supercharged BMW R1150 Citroen 2cv Hillclimb Monster 1995 Renault Master Mk1 Race Transporter 1994 Mazda MX5 Mk1 / NA Road Going Class Hillclimber 1991 UMM Alter II Crew Cab OM606 SuperTurbo Diesel MegaUMM Overlander 1992 UMM Alter II Station Wagon 1980 UMM Cournil - survivor - resto project 1979 Lomax 224 2014 VW T5.1 Transporter Kombi Highline
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