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Feb 16, 2011 19:25:21 GMT
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Re - wiring looms, I did the front half in my old dolomite sprint, it took us a good couple of hours to get the old one out but less than half to get the new one. Once you know where everything goes its pretty simple. We used a spare loom rather than a brand new one, but its quite easy to check all the wires when its laid out on a patio
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
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Feb 16, 2011 22:27:53 GMT
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MrSpeedy - that's very tempting! Keep me posted on that, but I won't be looking into engine swapping until after my Merc is done.
Stealthylz and Hoopsontoast - The wiring looks very simple on this car. It's a bit difficult to get an exact wiring diagram as it's a mixture of Herald, Spitfire and probably a few Bond-only things too. What I think I'll do is wait until I've got the parts ready, then hit the elctrical system all at once with alternator, twin-speed wipers, hazard flashers and a whole new loom.
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Last Edit: Feb 17, 2011 16:26:00 GMT by BenzBoy
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stealthstylz
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4Sstealthstylz
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Feb 16, 2011 23:10:01 GMT
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If you need any help with it just give me a shout nearer the time.
Matt
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Feb 17, 2011 14:16:06 GMT
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Mdh - that's very tempting! Keep me posted on that, but I won't be looking into engine swapping until after my Merc is done. I think that was Speedy! My spares a 2.5, possibly with an o/d box and 3.89 or 3.63 diff. Have you checked your diff ratio? A 4.11 Herald diff would give you some scary acceleration, albeit breifly! ;D
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
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Feb 17, 2011 16:25:44 GMT
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If you need any help with it just give me a shout nearer the time. Matt Thanks Matt, will do! Mdh - that's very tempting! Keep me posted on that, but I won't be looking into engine swapping until after my Merc is done. I think that was Speedy! My spares a 2.5, possibly with an o/d box and 3.89 or 3.63 diff. Have you checked your diff ratio? A 4.11 Herald diff would give you some scary acceleration, albeit breifly! ;D Ah sorry! I'm losing it a bit I think. I'll go and edit. I was wondering what my diff ratio is - stock Bond Equipe is 4.11, but as far as I can tell the Vitesse 6 is also 4.11. I've read that the 1600 may not have enough grunt for a 3.89 or 3.63 but with 90-odd lbft it can't be that bad! I'm going to be venturing under the back end to patch the chassis soon so I shall take a look at the part no, and top up the diff whilst I'm there.
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MrSpeedy
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Feb 17, 2011 16:38:35 GMT
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Lol, I hadn't even noticed that ^^^
Re diffs; All I know is that the Spitfire 1500 had a 3.89 :1 as standard as did the GT6 with O/D. Without O/D the GT6 had 3.27:1. The Vitesse 1600 had a 4.11:1 according to my manual !
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
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Feb 17, 2011 21:01:12 GMT
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It certainly feels like a 4.11 - it's a bit revvy at 60 / 70. Saying that, it sounds revvy all the time, even though I drive it gently it sounds like I'm going flat out! ;D
MOT is booked for next week. I saw the look of terror in my tester's eyes...
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MrSpeedy
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Feb 17, 2011 21:52:03 GMT
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There's nothing like the howl of a straight six at full chat !
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Feb 20, 2011 21:48:07 GMT
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Yeah, but it's a bit disappointing when it's at full chat at 60mph! ;D
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
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Feb 20, 2011 23:29:23 GMT
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It would be interesting to see if anyone has used a different diff with the 1600. Another alternative is an overdrive box, but I'm going to leave all that alone for now! ;D An update. MOT is next week, and there was a bit of grot I'd noticed on the chassis whilst doing the rear axle. Time to sort that... ^ It felt a little bit crusty under there. ^ Time to take it all back to the metal and see what's what. Fortunately the rust was quite localised. ^ I cut out the bad stuff... ^ I got a bit carried away and forgot to take photos but it's just the usual patching and welding, nowt particularly interesting. ^ Welded, seam sealed, and painted. While I was under there I topped up the diff oil, as it has a slight leak from the pinion seal. In more interesting news, tonight I went to meet Alolympic and purchase these... Really nice to meet you Al, and chat about the joys of retro motoring. Hopefully I'll see you at Prescott! The rears are 13x7J ET34 Weller wheels, and the fronts are 13x5.5J Dunlops. I was in two minds about the Slotmags I had. They're a cool wheel, but very '70s, and I'm really going for a 60's look with this car. Sixties wheels really means steel wheels, and these fit the bill really well I reckon! I'm a little worried about squeezing a 7J onto the back, but I shall see. The main problem may come because of the rear radius arms, but spacers could solve that. People put MGF wheels on Heralds and Vitesses which are 15x6 and 16x7 with similar offsets, so it must be possible. I'll only know when I fit them, which I'll do as soon as I get the chance, just to see what I'm dealing with. Where there's a wheel there's a way...
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What size were your slotmags BB?
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
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Feb 21, 2011 19:48:48 GMT
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What size were your slotmags BB? 13x5.5J. Not sure of the offset... ET20ish I think. I had a bit of a concern because of the MGF studs I have - I wasn't sure if the sleeve nuts would run out of thread because of the unthreaded bit on the studs. That, along with the 70's-ness of them led me to look for something a bit more "period".
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
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Feb 22, 2011 17:31:11 GMT
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Went out and tried the wheels on today. The fronts look to be fine - clear everything and sit nicely in the arch. It remains to be seen if I'll get any rubbing with 175 tyres on though!
The rears are a bit more problematic (I thought they might be!). The stud holes don't go over the M12 studs, so I need to ream them out a tiny bit. By the looks of it, there will be some conflict between the swing arms and the back of the rim. How much by, I'm not sure yet but once I can get the studs to go through the holes I'll have a better idea.
If that's the case, my options are some thick spacers (if the studs are long enough) or narrowing the wheels by an inch.
This was never going to be easy, but it'll be worth it once it's right!
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MrSpeedy
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Feb 22, 2011 17:58:15 GMT
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I was running both 6" Revo's and 6" Steelsport steelies with no clearance issues on the rear suspension. Granted I have the later Rotorflex set up but I believe this requires more clearance than what you have.
Rubbing tyres may be an issue tho. I was running 185/70 'balloons' and had rubbing on both the inner wings and the arch lips so you mat need either to relieve the arch lip or run a little stretch on the tyres. Maybe a 175/60 ? The fronts rubbed on the inner front footwell (easy fix with rubber mallet) and also a little on the bonnet subframe near the hinge, but it was running as low as poss on adjustable coilovers, so may not as much of an issue with your's. Unless of course you feel the need to get closer to the tarmac !! (Which of course you should!)
Nice looking wheels you got there tho. Summat a bit different !
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Last Edit: Feb 22, 2011 18:01:22 GMT by MrSpeedy
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Feb 22, 2011 20:03:33 GMT
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Went out and tried the wheels on today. The fronts look to be fine - clear everything and sit nicely in the arch. It remains to be seen if I'll get any rubbing with 175 tyres on though! The rears are a bit more problematic (I thought they might be!). The stud holes don't go over the M12 studs, so I need to ream them out a tiny bit. By the looks of it, there will be some conflict between the swing arms and the back of the rim. How much by, I'm not sure yet but once I can get the studs to go through the holes I'll have a better idea. If that's the case, my options are some thick spacers (if the studs are long enough) or narrowing the wheels by an inch. This was never going to be easy, but it'll be worth it once it's right! or else ;D
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Feb 22, 2011 20:09:48 GMT
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dean, if it's any use I have a pair of 10mm ish 4 stud wheel spacers here that you can have if it makes it easier to get AWESOME WHEELS onto the bond
60's racer look is where it's at, though if you had the $$$ then some JA Pearce magnas would be the shizz - guess what I saw at the weekend... (sadly not for sale though)
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
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Feb 22, 2011 20:10:07 GMT
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I can get away with 165 tyres on the front, which should ease things a bit, but with the rears I can only go down to a 185 on a 7J, and that's a width down from the 195 minimum recommended for that size wheel. I don't really want to have any stretch, as the rear suspension needs a pliable sidewall I think. Going too low profile or stretching the sidewalls will give me a twitchy feel I reckon. Not that I'll be racing around anywhere, but still... ;D
I've got spacers to play around with, so once I have the holes drilled to size I can start seeing what I really need to do to get them on.
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
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Feb 22, 2011 20:12:44 GMT
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dean, if it's any use I have a pair of 10mm ish 4 stud wheel spacers here that you can have if it makes it easier to get AWESOME WHEELS onto the bond Kev, that would really help! I've got a few 4 or 5mm ones but they won't be much use on the rears - I need to go more extreme! ;D
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SRob M
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Feb 22, 2011 20:22:07 GMT
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Its got to be said, for one of the more unassuming people on here who just gets on with it, you are one clever git. Ive read this thread through and you have, clearly, polished, polished and polished the turd into something that is going to be stonkingly good and, best of all different to the run of the mill stuff. If I wore a hat, id take it off to you. Brilliant work ! PS: Turd, as in something down at heel and unloved ( I like Bonds, which i would do coz I own a plastic rattly Scimitar... )
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1967 Bond Equipe GT4SBenzBoy
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Feb 22, 2011 20:54:52 GMT
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Thanks Zeb, I really appreciate it! It's been quite a long road, but I'm getting there with it. In a way I sort of feel like it deserves another chance - it was rescued from the Scrappage Scheme by Dollywobbler and avoided being destroyed by the skin of its teeth. It's sort of like a rescue puppy - often funny little mutts that have had a hard life but quite endearing really. ;D
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Last Edit: Feb 22, 2011 20:55:25 GMT by BenzBoy
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