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Dec 19, 2018 20:10:02 GMT
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I've used Waxoyl mixed 50 50 with new engine oil in recent years, unlike plain Waxoyl it doesnt set. So far so good where I've used it and a low cost solution so cheap to re-apply. Having a load of engine oil in chassis sections with a bit of wax to prevent it running out seems good. I don't think it would be so good in areas that get a lot of road spray though.
I have a modernish car with no factory rustproofing, and no doubt some rust (not had it long), my plan for next year though is to go underneath, wire brush and emery any rust to remove what I can, then use Bilt Hamber Hydrate 80 rust converter which I've used quite a bit. Finally I'm unsure what to use for the best protection long term, I thought that Dinitrol or Bilt Hamber products would be my choice, not really sure but will read this thread again and research the products. Its a car of high enough value to be well worth buying good products and hopefully avoiding it ever needing welding.
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I had a reliant Robin with failed back brakes, (leaving only one wheel braking) because the rear axle had leaked its oil into both drums.
I cleaned the brake parts then took the oil out of the diff, replaced it with very thick lorry axle oil which was like treacle and drilled a hole in the top of the axle in case any pressure could build up in there. It worked just fine.
Fitting Hillman Imp wheels to another Robin seemed a good idea, except the offset was wrong so I just put a selection of washers on first. Fine until driving with a full car with wimen in the back, honest, and one wheel sheared off around each stud hole while going around a roundabout. It was very funny, anyway, it seems wheels need to clamp onto a flat surface and two wheeled Robins arent very stable.
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Nov 20, 2018 19:06:03 GMT
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Yes, all the clatteriness is because its air cooled, although a healthy one isn't at all loud, they sound lovely at a nice tickover if they haven't been messed around with. The whistle noise, also known as fweem is all down to the tailpipes. If you fit bigger tailpipes to an otherwise standard car you loose the noise, and many years ago we fitted beetle tailpipes to a few motorbike exhausts that were just straight through pipe and they had the fweem. (Very loud on some bikes at speed though, I did end up in trouble with the police)
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Oct 24, 2018 21:41:52 GMT
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Draftsight is a free approximate copy of Autocad.
We use it at work for simple stuff. I drew my back garden and planned garage extension on it, full size, obviously you print it to scale.
Its not building planning specific, its just drawing software, I don't know if thats what you wanted.
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Oct 22, 2018 20:39:09 GMT
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chris y are you leaving on the 18th? This is on in the same area as the Mooneyes meet and is a much bigger event : www.oldtimer.jp/tengoku/ ... the car parks that surround it have all sorts of stuff in too including a bosozoku style car meet up. Which would also mean a Daikoku Futo trip on the Friday or Saturday would be probably be entertaining. Note they usually shut that down at 9pm on a Saturday, Friday is apparently allowed to go on later. I'll be in the air, I'm heading to the airport hotel on the 17th and working on the Friday. Its a shame, just unlucky, but it probably wont be the last trip so I wont get too upset.. Thanks for the info, much appreciated.
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Oct 18, 2018 19:54:29 GMT
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Hi, we got back earlier this week - it was amazing! I’ll post some photos and ideas for stuff to do and see when I can but definitely book a night tour (3hr route over Rainbow bridge if possible) with Maricar in advance and get an international drivers permit. Mooneyes in Yokohama is brilliant too as is MegaWeb! What area are you staying in? Outside of Tokyo? If you like craft beer I’ve lots of recommendations for Tokyo area, Yokohama, Osaka, Kyoto.... ;-) A quick question please, there seems to be a few places to get carts from, any advice about where to book would be appreciated.
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Oct 18, 2018 17:57:42 GMT
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Are you there yet? When do you come back? I've just found out that I'll be going on the 29th for 3 weeks. I'm with a work colleague for the first two weeks and we are thinking about going to Tokyo to try the karts on the first weekend. The second weekend I'm on my own so I'll try to see some car stuff, I've always been with the same work colleague and he isnt interested in cars at all but is up for the karting. I'm thinking about visiting Tokyo megaweb and the Mooneyes cafe in Yokohama. Unless anyone has any better suggestions. I'd really like to go to a night time PA meeting, but it doesnt sound practical alone and by taxi. I'm looking forward to it though. Hi, we got back earlier this week - it was amazing! I’ll post some photos and ideas for stuff to do and see when I can but definitely book a night tour (3hr route over Rainbow bridge if possible) with Maricar in advance and get an international drivers permit. Mooneyes in Yokohama is brilliant too as is MegaWeb! What area are you staying in? Outside of Tokyo? If you like craft beer I’ve lots of recommendations for Tokyo area, Yokohama, Osaka, Kyoto.... ;-) You are a star, thanks for the info. On the weekend we home to go on the carts I'll be with a workmate and one of the few things we have in common is beer (he likes a lot, I just like a bit but to try good beer everywhere) so any beer tips would be great. We are staying at Omiya, for work reasons, its not to bad for travel to Tokyo so our weekend idea is - Out for beer (don't know where yet) on Friday night, Saturday get the train to Tokyo, bit of wandering, Maricars, then have plenty of beers while laughing about what we just did before taking an early hours train back to Omiya. Sunday is for recovery and maybe shopping for family gifts.
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Oct 18, 2018 17:51:56 GMT
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I called in at Mooneyes Yokohama two weeks ago today - small world! I’ve got a few magazines from there which may help with upcoming events, will have a look and report back :-) Brilliant, anything on 10th & 11th November would be great. There isnt anything happening at Mooneyes according to the website, just an advery for some bike racing which I'm not too bothered about to be honest.
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Oct 18, 2018 17:50:20 GMT
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Do you know of an online Japan petrolheads calendar of events, it would be great to drop in on something good like you did if possible? What dates are you out there and where are you going to be? Sometimes events are tricky to find out about but there are some calendars, only problem is that Japan is pretty huge so they may be on the other side of the country ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) I'll be there from 30th October to 18th November, so 2 weekends. I'll be with my non car loving workmate the first weekend, but we might be giving the mariokarts a try. I'll be on my own and able to try finding car things on the weekend of 10th & 11th November. We will be based in Omiya, which doesnt have anything much but its not bad for travel to Tokyo and Yokohama, and probably other places.
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Oct 18, 2018 11:59:43 GMT
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You can do it, I posted a restoration thread about one of my Carltons on here and that was done using a 150a welder and a £100 second hand generator, I think 3.8kva. I did a vast amount of welding on the car.
Frankly it's a risk though if you don't oversize the generator a lot more than I did. I knowingly started with a too small 2.3kva generator and cooked it, very silly but I was desperate to get started.
Definitely possible is the answer, but with care.
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Oct 17, 2018 19:09:24 GMT
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Bumping this thread as we have booked a return trip to Japan in October so gathering inspiration and ideas. Would attempting MariCar again be a good idea but a different route maybe? Seems like the sort of thing to quit while I’m ahead on having survived last years Rainbow Bridge night crossing amongst HGVs dressed as Mario.... ;-) We are staying in Yokohama for a few nights this time too so planning to visit Mooneyes. Any recommendations there, in Tokyo or Osaka appreciated as they’re all on our route. Also looking at Hakone ‘free pass’ vs hiring a car to have a look around that area whilst staying in Tokyo for 7 nights. Can’t wait! :-) Are you there yet? When do you come back? I've just found out that I'll be going on the 29th for 3 weeks. I'm with a work colleague for the first two weeks and we are thinking about going to Tokyo to try the karts on the first weekend. The second weekend I'm on my own so I'll try to see some car stuff, I've always been with the same work colleague and he isnt interested in cars at all but is up for the karting. I'm thinking about visiting Tokyo megaweb and the Mooneyes cafe in Yokohama. Unless anyone has any better suggestions. I'd really like to go to a night time PA meeting, but it doesnt sound practical alone and by taxi. I'm looking forward to it though.
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Oct 16, 2018 21:35:26 GMT
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Great pics, I'm very envious.
I've found out today that I'm going to Japan in a couple of weeks, I don't know whats on, nothing much on the Mooneyes website.
Do you know of an online Japan petrolheads calendar of events, it would be great to drop in on something good like you did if possible?
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You just need a vacuum generator, the rest is just bits of pipe, I added a pneumatic switch because I had one but its not essential.
I originally fitted it to the Laser suction tool I bought but it just collapsed the bottle, these garden sprayers are much stronger and its big enough to take any engine worth of oil in one go.
The vac generator I used was a fancy leftover one from work but there are very simple ones available, they are just a venturi really, a cheap chinese one should be just as good.
Just connect to compressor, pop the pie in an engine, diff, gearbox etc, switch on and go. Not much air demand, a small compressor will be fine.
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I bought a Laser oil pump. It was complete garbage so I made a pneumatic one from a garden sprayer, its got great suction. ![](https://i.imgur.com/fXOppke.jpg)
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Last Edit: Oct 8, 2018 21:53:53 GMT by chris y
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I would however steer him towards one of the specialities such has motorsport or restoration - faceless main dealer franchises / motor trade based chains are god awful places to work ! True enough about the trade, but the areas you mention completely missed where the vast majority of automotive engineering is done in this country, the car manufacturing industry. It needs Engineers, not people who repair or sell modern cars. Its the industry I'm in, there are lots of apprenticeships and a national shortage of good Engineers and Technicians. It was predicted there would be a shortage when I was one of the very few apprentices at the end of the 80s, there were far too few apprenticeships then leading to a big gap between the people who are now approaching retirement and young skilled people. Motorsport or restoration might well interest a young person more to be fair, but for a technically minded person looking to start a career with a future, automotive manufacturing or any of the industries that feed it is worth considering. Anyway, its great that he is thinking about the future, and that he already has far better hands on skills than a lot of the young people starting apprenticeships now. Honestly there arent enough young people who know how to use their hands and are willing to risk getting them dirty.
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Sept 26, 2018 20:52:56 GMT
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I've used electrolysis on very heavy rust on brake calipers, very effective but leaves a black surface. I painted them with silver basecoat and 2k clear laquer and a couple of years later they are still the same so it didnt cause a big problem.
My point is though that Deox cleans things back to the point of shiny sparkling steel, better than electrolysis. What surface does the citrix acid leave?
Another plus for Deox is that it doesnt touch chrome so you can put pitted chrome items in and clean the rust out of the pits to stop it developing further without ruining the chrome, I'd be very wary of putting chrome in any acid, has anyone tried it? What I did with chromed parts (I built a few old raleigh bicycles, so things like wheel rims) was deox them, then wipe them over with silver paint so that it filled the pits, but wiped off to leave clean chrome. It worked very well indeed. Chrome parts that arent too far gone but cost lots to rechrome can be made to look vastly better cheaply this way.
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Sept 24, 2018 21:47:26 GMT
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right ok, so i should get the deox c for nuts and bolts and small parts too? Get some citric acid off eBay would be my advice - it's very similar in appearance and operation to Deox C, but much less costly. Dilute the powder into water at 10% concentration, then soak stuff just as you would in Deox C. Citric acid also gets exhausted once it's done a certain amount of work, and you should remove as much rust and grease as you can prior to soaking. I've been happy with Deox, but I'll be doing exactly what you say and trying the citric acid.
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Sept 23, 2018 17:39:05 GMT
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right ok, so i should get the deox c for nuts and bolts and small parts too? the hd 80 is here but i cant work on the car atm! thanks for the advices Yes. Note, the Deox C gats exhausted when so much rusty has been removed. Therefore to get best value for money get as much rust as possible off by traditional methods such as wire brush or abrasive discs etc, less to do for the Deox means it will last longer. Use it to get the last of the rust off very thoroughly rather than to get the thick off.
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Sept 20, 2018 19:59:31 GMT
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As Mantasport said
Hydrate 80 is the rust converter product they sell, for when you removed as much as possible but cant remove everything and the metal is basically sound and doesnt need to be replaced. There is no Gel version of this.
The Gel people are referring to is Deox gel, it also comes in power form to be dissolved to make liquid to leave small parts in. The Deox products are completely different to Hydrate 80. Deox is to actually remove the rust, not convert it. Its slow and not ideal for large areas, but it does remove the rust very well. The best tip for using the Gel is to cover it with cling film to prevent it drying out.
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Sept 6, 2018 11:58:43 GMT
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Personally I wouldnt put anything other than engine oil in it, but give it a couple of changes.
I don't think there's a lot of benefit running flushing products or ATF through, and have heard stories of failed engines after flushing (might not be true). If you put something that isnt engine oil in it how can you get it all out? When you change back to oil you will still have a percentage of the other stuff in there just diluted in oil. How much depends on things like oil cooler, hoses, internal engine design etc. I wouldnt risk it. If theres nothing actually wrong except it seems a bit neglected and you want to take good care of it I'd just change the oil a couple of times. As said above, use cheapo oil if its not staying in there.
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