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Sorry for opening a can of worms, was just surprised when I read about not being able to do your own structural repairs as I never had a problem borrowing the farms welder to put a few plates on our Starlet for a WOF when we were out there 10 years ago. We were looking at emigrating and the Entry Certifier never mentioned it last year when I was asking about importing my 80s transit - as long as there's no holes or rust you can poke a screwdriver through it'll be fine was their take, they did make it clear it would be a pig to get my rangerover in and on the road with the Perkins diesel fitted though.
Do you still have the original dead black and white plates for the Morry?
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..... if the wof tester cant see any rust repairs then they cant pick on the repairs! Sorted! I think this could be key to circumventing such problems in the future. Ensure the structural corrosion issues are properly inspected / sorted before submitting the vehicle for WOF testing. Either make the repair so good that it's undetectable from the rest of the vehicle's bodywork or dress it up to look like a historic repair. If you're asked about it deny all knowledge, "Like that when I bought it." It's not nice to have to tell porkies but when the system is so flawed & loaded and that is going to cost you a small fortune in using a monopolistic bodywork specialist then hopefully that will assuage your guilt.
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Hello again. HC 1975 two-door in red and black. I love that car too, and I souped up the engine in that one. Those 1256 "Over-square" engines that Vauxhall used in the Vivas, Chevettes and a few others that escape me, are actually damn good engines to soup-up, with the short stroke, and pretty good standard inlet porting on the head on those ones. They are strangled by the standard air-filter and carb, but if you put a high-spec down-draught carby on those(Delorto or Weber etc) and with a Coby or similar performance exhaust, those little engines go like hell! I am also working slowly on a Chevette hatchback. I've done the engine on that, but have yet to re-assemble the car's interior. I have a new carpet set for it, but there is a leak, so I need to find that and plug it before I put new carpet in there - don't want that getting wet! Here is a shot of my HC Viva, back when I had just finished that project: This car is in commercial storage now, as I have these other Austin's I am working on! So many British cars, so little space......(and time!) EDIT: @ dodgerover - If you mean the orange one I just put the photos up for, then yes - they are still on it, so it was a natural registration death, they had not voluntarily taken it off the road. If you do that, they normally ask you to surrender the number-plates. @ MkX - Yes, I think you(and anyone else saying the same thing) are right - fix it to look like you don't know anything about it BEFORE you submit for the Re-cert. I guess you would do that naturally anyway. I think I only got stung with the Velox, cos I submitted it for the re-cert, not knowing what was actually wrong with it, and the rest, as they say, is history. If the Velox had it's rego on hold, then you could have fixed up the rust, and submitted it to the nearest garage for the WOF. You can't do that with a car that has had it's rego lapse - they have to go for a re-cert.(re-VIN).
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Last Edit: Jul 25, 2016 9:57:47 GMT by Grogster
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I have absolutely nothing to add to this conversaion as these are not any kind of rules that apply to Canada. However, while I find this truly fascinating - and I genuinely do - as the various ins and outs are being discussed vis a vis actual project, can I suggest that this conversaion go off line. Again, not because it isn't interesting - it is but because the interweb is the most public forum in the world and I would hate for ummm "private strategic conversations about options" to be out there for every official to read if you catch my drift.
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Jul 25, 2016 10:00:09 GMT
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I catch your drift totally. I would be surprised if any official ever read this, but as you say - anyone can, so.......
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Jul 25, 2016 10:16:54 GMT
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A tad too paranoid I fear.
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Jul 25, 2016 10:32:51 GMT
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Going off at a slight tangent, (but still on the topic off vehicle safety). I stumbled across this, the vehicle owner had only put the car in because one windscreen wiper didn't work.
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Jul 25, 2016 10:48:04 GMT
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Just thinking if you do end up getting it revinned and can prove a link between the plates and the car like an old rego label you might be able to get the same number back and keep the black and white plates rather than the new white ones. Only read about it on old skool NZ but it sounded like it was getting easier to do.
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Jul 25, 2016 10:51:26 GMT
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A tad too paranoid I fear. Not really the DVLA/ VOSA or whoever it is at the moment have said they go through forums/ ebay/ magazines looking for vehicles that no longer qualify for the registration and also at V5 sales. Big brother is watching.
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Jul 25, 2016 12:31:48 GMT
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A tad too paranoid I fear. Not really the DVLA/ VOSA or whoever it is at the moment have said they go through forums/ ebay/ magazines looking for vehicles that no longer qualify for the registration and also at V5 sales. Big brother is watching. Takes them forever to respond to calls or give you an IVA test date yet they have people to trawl the internet! I seem to remember they were primarily looking for heavily modified or built from bits cars pretending to be something else, I guess this forum is gold dust for them then!
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Jul 25, 2016 13:29:07 GMT
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Hi everyone. @ MkX - Seems that garage really did not want the customer to drive that vehicle. I know he only sent it in for a wiper, but a good mechanic ususally can't help himself/herself. If you see things that are wrong and perhaps a threat to the safety of the driver(or the people they hit!), then they tend to write it all down. I remember a mini here that had so many things wrong with it, they had to start ANOTHER WOF checksheet for it, cos there was not enough room to write down all the problems with it. This one really was a disaster area though - REALLY bad in just about any way you can think of, and the garage actually called the cops, who came down, looked, and red-stickered the car right there at the garage. Customer got quite upset about that when the came back to collect it, and argued with the guy at the garage, and then just drove off with it anyway showuting all kinds of obscenities as he went. Mechanic called the cops, and they had him by the time he was down the other end of the street! Generally speaking, I think most of the regs are a good thing. It's just if you have to suffer too much official involvement. @ dodgerover - Yes, original plates. When I re-certified the Velox, they issued it with horrible black-on-white plates. I was able to keep the original plates, with some ID and proof of ownership etc. I had to pay for THAT too. And about two months later, they changed the regs and made it free to reuse your old silver-on-black plates if you were restoring a car - go figure....... @ kevins - Well quite.
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Jul 25, 2016 17:49:54 GMT
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A tad too paranoid I fear. Perhaps though just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you :grin:
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Paranoia is a safe state of mind because one day you'll be right.
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Jul 26, 2016 20:26:17 GMT
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First off mr Grogster... lovely looking HC 2 door!!! I really like the stripes.
The one thing I would change on that car would be more period correct oldschool mag wheels with less chrome. Just my opinion. At least they aint 18" chromes with spinners...
Secondly.. great to hear that you like the little viva/chevette engines. I am keeping my one for the HB wagon for now and will see how it goes. I have bought a downdraught manifold to suit a weber/nikki carb so might try that later on.
Thirdly.. your black plates. Yes the NZTA have made roads to making it easier to keep historic plates if the owner have enough info to prove they belong to the car. Having the rego papers are a good start.
Or keeping on subject with 'manipulating the system in a fair way... you could take a photo of the car all cleaned up, on the street with a friend standing next to it in 70's clothes. Get photo printed on old style paper, crumple it up a bit and use that as evidence :-) Sorted. I mean really.. the relevant Govt dept is probably not really fussed about chasing the legality of whether a set of black plates are original on an old Austin (Morris). They are more chasing car theft and on selling of much pricier machinery etc!
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Jul 28, 2016 11:38:03 GMT
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As a WoF inspector, unless rust is clearly visible or has clearly been painted over, we can't fail it because we can't prove it. It's similar to the way that surface rust is only a note but a hole is a fail. Also a funny side note is we can't fail a car for having no doors unless it has to meet side impact rules or has sharp pointy bits. Also doors don't have to open from the outside, just easily from the inside. The actual what rules are quite different to what people or even inspectors believe.
I can't remember the cut-off but I believe re-vinning is way more relaxed on classics as it's only the tinnier imports from the 80-90s etc that they are worried about.
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It's only bodgey if it doesn't work, otherwise it's genius
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Jul 28, 2016 11:56:56 GMT
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No wonder I am getting confused......
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Jul 28, 2016 12:19:05 GMT
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Just a thought .... If you've got any that are past saving, another potential use -
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Jul 28, 2016 12:41:29 GMT
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I LOVE IT!!!!!
I wonder what would be required to certify that.........cpgrubb?
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Jul 28, 2016 12:57:58 GMT
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I LOVE IT!!!!! I wonder what would be required to certify that.........cpgrubb? It's a trailer, assume no cert required?
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