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Apr 10, 2015 13:17:04 GMT
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Fair points, the salesman i spoke to at the toyota dealership might as well have been selling sofas, if i'd have offered to trade my 300tdi 90 in instead of the 106 i doubt he'd have batted an eyelid.
she'd initially wanted the toyota equivalent, i forget what it was called, they all look the same to me. The toyota salesman said they had a one off deal that ended that day, and i though oh yeah, right, no way i'm falling for that one and said i think about it. I mean the golden rule is always shop around and never take the first deal you come to, right?
when my late father bought the 106 in 1997, he'd virtually done the deal on another car but when he came to sign for it he realised it was the 13th of the month, and being superstitious said he'd come back on another day, which he would have done, but purely by chance he passed another peugeot garage the next day and thought he'd go in for a look, and found out that he could have the same car from them for £800 less. He always told that story as a cautionary tale when i was thinking of making a purchase on anything from a washing machine to a new tractor.
In this case however, although i tried, i couldn't match that original one off deal, certainly not without the scrappage allowance.
thing was, the base model was much cheaper than variants with metallic paint etc, even though these things cost a few pence more to fit at the factory, and all the demo models i could have got a deal on were higher spec, and even though i got offered a keen deal on a higher spec car to buy outright, it was still £1000 shy of the scrappage deal on the base model, assuming i could sell the old one, with all the potential aggravation involved there. IIRC by the time i'd faffed about there were no base model toyotas left so she had an i10 instead, which was better specced for the money and TBF seems like a decent buy.
you'd wonder what the point was of storing these cars for so long, is there really a backlog of designated breakers who can process them?
I know it's probably small beer in the great scheme of things but selling those cars would make no difference to new car sales, and would generate some money. I thought this was austerity britain and we were all in it together? surely there's enough money stood there to keep a couple of hospital wards going for a month or two? i don't suppose it's costing nothing to store them, either.
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My mother traded in an absolutely mint peugeot 106 diesel with 60k on the clock for an hyundai i10, or whatever they are, at the time i tried very hard to get a better deal to buy the new car outright but couldn't, even without factoring in the hassle of selling the old one privately, it was a criminal waste really, it wasn't a particularly exciting car but it would have made a perfect first car for someone, but in the end the scrappage deal made the most sense purely from a mercenary point of view in that case.
You'd wonder though ho scrapped some of those classic cars, those land rovers for a start were worth way more than the money being offered on scrappage even then, series 3 may have been borderline perhaps, but that unmolested 90 county? find me one for less than £3500 with test on it. also some of the older cars, why would someone own a car like that but have no empathy for it at all? It seems odd.
Presumably the guys at the dealers must have been idiots as well, i mean you're presented with a car worth £3K for scrappage, why not simply say we'll give you the £2K ourselves and then take the £1000 profit? perhaps they're making enough already not to be bothered?
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Hi, if it's just a shell with odd parts, how does he know it has done 787000mls? maybe one of the odd parts is the speedo clock
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Mar 14, 2015 15:39:24 GMT
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Not in my experience. I've reported logbooks on the day they're posted & they've been allowed to run the course I've found that they may allow the sale of a log book only as memorabilia particularly if it's an old type book, if it is for a log book plus a shell or chassis, even if the chassis or shell is beyond repair in the real world, they'll allow it, as this is technically legal. If it's a blatant ringing kit, ie log book, vin tags and admission that they will post just these or will sweep what's left of the chassis into a jiffy bag' then they will usually pull it. However, there's no option to explain why a listing is dodgy when you report stuff these days. not a car but this listing looks sort of ok: www.ebay.ie/itm/301545125925?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649but there are a couple of red flags, i think it was a hijacked account because the photos and description are copied from this genuine auction: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bridgeport-Milling-Machine-Variable-Speed-/221601557511now i reported the first auction as i'd googled a phrase from the description and found the second auction which it's obviously a copy of, but when i reported there was no option to tell ebay why the listing was fraudulent, so it's still there and someone has probably been conned out of £6K good old ebay.
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Might have a job for the SD1 door skin.
would you consider packing it for a courier or is it for collection only?
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Take a new battery down, and plenty of spare fuel. New battery on, fuel in, drive it back. for that matter, take another alternator as well, the cherokee is not the most complicated motor to work on, unless the newer ones are more complicated the mid 90's one i had briefly as a trade in was like something out of the 1970's in terms of simplicity.
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Jul 13, 2014 16:19:50 GMT
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What i wanted to ask re the refurb was, i'm assuming you replaced the wings with new ones, if so did you use genuine or pattern, and if pattern what was the fit like?
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Jul 13, 2014 16:17:53 GMT
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re the exhaust, i had a stainless steel one made for my 318is last year by a chap in stafford, from memory it cost around £180 and comes with a lifetime guarantee. Thats a good price from what I've seen on the net so far. Was it very loud? I don't want it to sound chaved out, just want it to sound like the original only slightly louder and to keep the classic rasp up at the top end? No it's no louder than the original as far as i can tell. I can dig out the number of you want, i know it's not that near you but he did mine while we waited by appointment, my girlfriend took it in and she read a book for a couple of hours while he did it, if you knew you were going to be in the area you could maybe sort something out in advance.
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Jul 11, 2014 22:12:26 GMT
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re the exhaust, i had a stainless steel one made for my 318is last year by a chap in stafford, from memory it cost around £180 and comes with a lifetime guarantee.
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Apr 12, 2014 11:33:48 GMT
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There's nothing wrong with bank transfer, it's free, instant and safe, the only details you give out are the account number and sort code which you give out every time you write a cheque, except with a cheque you give the person a sample of your signature as well. You're quite right to ask though, much better to be safe than sorry.
We do nearly all our business transactions via bank transfer these days, there is a small charge now on our lloyds business account but it's only 20p compared to 80p for writing a cheque, and they're free to pay in.
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Mar 17, 2014 17:45:04 GMT
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Maybe the seller has been less than honest, however the original listing for the car did say "Please bare in mind it has just sat since last June so a service etc is needed before use don’t just drive away needs tailoring away and the cam belt hasn’t been done". Assuming allanwales bought the car directly from the first listing, that listing does say, as you point out, that the car is not suitable to be driven away. With that in mind i don't think the seller ripped allan off in any way, he was honest about the car's condition, the buyer made the decision to ignore the advice in the listing and drive the car 300 miles home. The actual fault that stopped it was a very minor issue with the fuel pump, had he sought out a local mechanic surely it could have been fixed for not much more than the cost of the train ticket home. Alan has my sympathies for the bad luck he's suffered, butI'm afraid he's putting the blame on the wrong person.
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Mar 17, 2014 17:15:38 GMT
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It's not the EGR valve is it?
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Feb 17, 2014 23:25:22 GMT
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Still for sale , chap who won the car on eBay didnt want it , i think he bid expecting a mint car and when he turned up and saw it needed work starting picking faults with the paintwork etc. Anyone interested on here i am open to reasonable cash offers? I may even take a more modern small car in part exchange as a first car for my sister?? Christ, could he not read? what's wrong with these muppets? it's not like you didn't make it absolutely clear in the listing that the car isn't mint.
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The unpaid item strike has been logged , wow i hate the amount of messers eBay seems to attract , still hopefully it will go this time . Aye, hopefully it will. Ebay's a good place for selling niche interest stuff like this car, trouble is it's also a haven for messers and idiots. Anyway, it ought to go at that money, fingers crossed and all that.
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Feb 11, 2014 13:51:03 GMT
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I used the how long is a piece of string method, it would obviously depend on how much the price petrol rises. Look at how much a 1p increase in fuel costs a haulage firm. Look at the Tax disc on lorries and cant they claim some of the tax back? I personally I think put it on fuel then everyone even the privileged who have pre 74 vehicles (mainly 2nd cars) and people luckily enough to afford newer cars pays. Would also encourage people to drive more sensibly Road tax for a 38 tonner without concessions would be £1850 PA. commercial users can claim back the 20% VAT on fuel. £1850 sounds a lot but compared to a fuel increase of 16p per litre for a vehicle covering say 70,000K per year you would in all fairness be looking at a significant increase in running costs. That's using Clamity's figures which are reasonable ballpark figures based on private car usage, as he points out it's likely that this figure would be adjusted to account for the disparity in fuel use for commercial vehicles and hence would be significantly lower the the 16p stated. Nevertheless there would be an overall increase in the cost of road transport, this does highlight however the extent to which road transport is subsidised in this country, whether you think this is a bad or good thing depends on your viewpoint. On the one hand you could argue it makes consumer goods and food cheaper, on the other you could say cheap logistics enables the large out of town superstores that are the key reason your local high street is populated entirely by fast food outlets and charity shops, but i digress. Overall it would be a fairer system to load VED onto fuel tax, what you pay is directly proportional to the amount you actually use the roads, there is an obvious incentive to drive more carefully to reduce fuel consumption. Also, purely from the selfish point of view as someone who covers relatively few miles but owns several vehicles, i personally would be much better off under such a system, which to be fair was my original point. That said, as has been pointed out, VED in this country is not massively expensive in relative terms, it's certainly not the biggest cost of running a car. Perhaps from the point of view of our hobby of messing about with old bangers, a system like the one I understand (from reading threads on here) that they have in Germany, which allows people to register up to 10 'historic' cars on one plate, or something, would be a fairer system than the current one where a car built before 1974 can be taxed FOC whist one that rolled off the production line a day later attracts the full rate.
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Feb 11, 2014 13:15:38 GMT
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25%? Care to show us your workings on that one? I used the how long is a piece of string method, it would obviously depend on how much the price petrol rises. Look at how much a 1p increase in fuel costs a haulage firm. So in other words it's what you reckon:
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think I have had around the 40 mark,the thing that sickens me is how rare and/or expensive some of them were/are now compared to what they cost me and what I sold em for. I know the feeling. I can remember struggling to sell an absolutely mint 2 door range rover (that would now be tax exempt) for £1000. Would probably be worth 7 or 8 times that these days, funny how things change.
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Personally i would prefer them to simply add VED onto fuel duty Thats a great idea, you do know that your weekly shop would go up by about 25% if they did that though...in fact everything that you buy would go up. As curse word as the VED system is, I am quite happy to keep it as is thanks. If we do change it, maybe change it to be the same as it is in Oz, 3rd party insurance comes with your road tax & it is valid from the day (not month) you tax it. Would solve the problem of uninsured drivers instantly. 25%? Care to show us your workings on that one?
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